Simon Says: Talk to Neighbors; Examine Data; Review EIS for BQE Renovation

As expected, Thursday’s “Java with Jo Anne” event, with State Assembly Member Jo Anne Simon at One Girl Cookies in DUMBO, drew a number of Brooklyn Heights residents eager to question Ms. Simon’s stance concerning the City Department of Transportation’s plan to construct a temporary six lane highway in the present location of the Brooklyn Heights Promenade. Simon was booed and heckled at the rally on the Promenade last Saturday for not declaring herself opposed to the DOT plan. As Mary Frost reports in the Eagle, when asked why she hadn’t opposed it as other elected officials had, Simon replied that unlike those who had spoken against the DOT plan at the promenade rally — she didn’t name them, but they are City Comptroller Scott Stringer and Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams — she isn’t running for Mayor. (Another elected official who spoke against the DOT plan on Saturday, Assembly Member Latrice Walker, is running for City Public Advocate.)

Simon noted that there are only two plans now under consideration: the “innovative” plan to build a temporary highway at the level of the Promenade, and a “traditional” lane-by-lane approach that would involve partially closing the BQE, would take longer, and is projected to cause seven mile long traffic jams and cause diversion of much traffic to local streets. The “traditional” approach would affect constituents of hers in Cobble Hill, where she lives. The “innovative” approach would be a benefit to residents of DUMBO and Vinegar Hill, because it would allow traffic to flow freely to the Brooklyn and Manhattan bridges from the BQE, rather than being routed through their neighborhoods. The Eagle story quotes Simon: “We’re in a state of equipoise here. Both plans suck. And they suck a little differently for different people.”

Asked about the alternative plan proposed by the Brooklyn Heights Association that would route the temporary highway below the Promenade, and above the sound attenuating berms and parking lot of Brooklyn Bridge Park, the Eagle story quotes Simon as saying “the DOT Commissioner [Polly Trottenberg] was very intrigued by it” but that the Department must determine if it is feasible. Simon also noted that it could adversely affect residents of 360 Furman Street, the Pierhouse, and Pier Six (presumably meaning the soon to be completed high rises on the Pier Six uplands).

Simon also noted that it was impossible to evaluate the impacts of the proposals until an environmental assessment has been completed. According to the Eagle:

Her office will be helping to advise people working on statements for input into the environmental review process — a process she is familiar with based on many years of involvement with the Gowanus Expressway and Atlantic Yards processes.

She said that the environmental report, when released, would be very long, and deal with a number of topics. She suggested that neighborhood groups should appoint people with expertise in various areas to analyze and criticize portions of the report. She also encouraged people from different neighborhoods that might be differently affected to get together and discuss how they could find common ground.

Several attendees asked about actions that could reduce the traffic using the BQE, and thereby mitigate the possibility of traffic jams and diversions of traffic. Simon said that eliminating the outbound toll on the Verrazano Bridge would require federal legislation. Congestion pricing, which would require action by the state, is a tough sell, because legislators representing districts in the farther reaches of Brooklyn and Queens, and Nassau County have all been told by their constituents that they oppose anything that would constrain their right to commute to Manhattan by car. Simon added that surveys have shown that people living in these areas rarely if ever use their private cars to go to Manhattan. Nevertheless, they object to anything that would limit their freedom to do so. Simon said she’s convinced that “there’s a direct connection between the steering column and the male groin.” In any event, she didn’t think that congestion pricing would have a significant effect on BQE traffic.

Simon expressed disappointment over the failures of the city and the state to take earlier action on the deterioration of the cantilevered portion of the BQE. She said several successive City DOT commissioners had “kicked the can down the road.” She also reiterated her criticism of the state, expressed at the rally last Saturday, for turning its back on the issue, but added, as the Eagle story reports:

I’m talking to everybody; I’m working with the DOT to explore every alternative; I’m working with the federal elected officials; I’m working with the state elected officials; I’m hounding the state Department of Transportation. I’ve a meeting with the commissioner next week … He’s coming to see me. Which is highly unusual for the transportation commissioner to come visit a legislator. The statement is pretty clear. We’re going to do everything we can.

There was some discussion of matters unrelated to the BQE. Simon said that Democratic control of the Senate, along with the assembly and the Executive, meant that progress had been made on several fronts: voting rights, campaign finance reform, LGBTQ rights, and gun safety. She was asked if taxes accruing from marijuana legalization, if passed, might be used to improve public transit. She said there were several proposals for the use of those funds, including repairing the lives of those who had been imprisoned because of marijuana convictions.

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  • Arch Stanton

    A refreshingly levelheaded position form a politician.

  • A Neighbor

    For her, it’s not the merits of the plans, but which plan may cost her more votes. Yeah, I understand the ‘innovative’ plan requires destroying the promenade – maybe forever, will spew particulates into the lungs of BH residents and school children, and cost an obscene amount of money – but the ‘traditional’ plan might cause some inconvenience for me and my Cobble Hill neighbors. This is when you find out who people are.

  • Jorale-man

    This is how Robert Moses enacted the damage that he did: politicians lined up behind his massive projects. The “innovative” plan is just a throwback to Moses-era urban planning with no regard for the future of transportation. Maybe the environmental studies will shift her thinking on all of this.



    Depending on Environmental Impact Study done by DOT is inviting the fox into the henhouse. Important that groups also do their own EIS. Been fooled too many times before.


    Simon taking the easy way out. Using other constituents as excuse to not do investigation by self and staff. If it’s wrong then what said by others should not influence her decision.

  • Still Here

    Hear, Hear!

  • Still Here

    Actually, only the innovative plan addresses BQE access to the bridges and eliminates truck rerouting on Atlantic avenue. The lane by lane does not, and the BHA plan currently does not but is working on it.

  • Still Here

    We sure did – she’s informed, sensible, and unlike our other LEOS, reaches out to all her constituents – including Cobble Hill, Boerum Hill, Vinegar Hill, Fulton Ferry, DUMBO, and the Heights residents living on Hicks, Henry and Clinton.

  • StudioBrooklyn

    This is a chance to introduce emissions zones, similar to what Berlin has, that would be far more effective in clearing up traffic and local air, not only in our area but throughout the city. The more I understand about this the more strongly I feel that it needs to be part of any future infrastructural plans this city makes, and it might as well start with this one.

  • BrooklynHeightzer

    I think in 10 years time there will be at at list 50% of electrical cars on the roads. So I think the air pollution discussions are simply becoming irrelevant….

  • StudioBrooklyn

    In 50 or 100 years, how many of them will have human drivers? None, I expect—and the algorithms that will dictate their flow will mean there’s no such thing as congestion, just allowances for safe places for pedestrians to cross roads. So what will we need the BQE for?

  • W.R.

    Right on Studio Brooklyn. As to the BHA plan… They have made no attempt to consider the concerns of Willowtown among other areas (as Simon correctly notes). If that doesn’t change, we’ll have other Brooklyn Heights residents actively advocating against their plan.

  • BrooklynHeightzer

    That sounds more like a well oiled public transportation system.

    That said, the next generation New Yorkers will still need the BQE or whatever it will be called in 100 years.

    The debate should be about creating a better and more widespread infrastructure for e-vehicles so there are more of them on the road which will bring benefits not only to the privileged neighborhoods like BH but to the people of the entire city.

  • PDON

    I don’t think that’s accurate – the DOT has said it would also address BQE access to the bridges under the so-called traditional lane-by-lane method. They just say that it’ll be a little more difficult, as it would require additional weekend closures.

  • StudioBrooklyn

    (There’s no reason a fleet of autonomous cars couldn’t be seamlessly integrated into a public transportation system.)

  • StudioBrooklyn

    Well…I don’t disagree that if we take the number of vehicles on the road, it would be nice to see a much greater proportion (or 100%) of those be electric. Even better would be to see the overall number of vehicles drastically reduced AND of the remaining vehicles, ubiquitous electric power sources.

    It shouldn’t go unmentioned that electric cars create their own deleterious ecological footprint, most notably in the way their batteries are manufactured. The harmful effects of rare earth mineral mining may be slower to reach Brooklyn, but it would be intellectually dishonest to call for a cleaner city without calling for a cleaner planet…as long as there’s no bubble defending New York from the crumbling atmosphere around it… (concept art by Craig Mullins)

  • Cranberry Beret

    You call out the BHA re “no attempt to consider the concerns of Willowtown,” but really to be fair – does either DOT plan do anything for Willowtown differently? Haven’t seen it, or why you think Willowtown is worse off.

  • W.R.

    The DOT has acknowledged the importance of the Montague connection. The BHA does not and has not added it to their plan. Also the BHA plan has not shown how it would impact WT so we’re dealing with unknowns vs. the DoT plan that is clear and transparent.

  • Save BBP!

    The utter disregard for the residents of Pierhouse and 360 Furman would be laughable if wasn’t so scary. The BHA’s alternative is just a dump into someone else’s backyard. The hypocrisy under the guise of “protecting the neighborhood” is sickening.