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  • marilyn berkon

    Again, KX–you must understand the importance of having the business library in the business district. It was built especially to be here and serve that special need. And though the Grand Army Plaza is not in a wasteland, it is very difficult, with its limited bus and subway service, for people to get there from various parts of Brooklyn. For the handicapped it is not possible at all with public transportation. As for modern technology, anything it may lack presently can be outfitted for just a few dollars. We have been told that by experts in technology. It is a very simple, quick job. The new library size would still be much smaller, not counting the business library and could not accommodate all those thousands from the nearby less advantaged districts. And the new library could never be expanded for an ever-growing population since the luxury condo would be sitting on top of it. Why are we tearing down this excellent building at all and suffering the consequences of 4 years of construction, when we have what we need right now in this library of historic importance built by the famous architect Francis Keally, who also designed the Grand Army Plaza? It is shameful and utterly wasteful to tear it down and, moreover, get something inferior that robs the public of its present valuable asset.

  • Diesel

    Well I imagine the overhead of running such a facility here in the Heights must be quite high. The only other vet I’ve gone to around here is Vinegar Hill Veterinary, Their main office is located in Dumbo. I think the fees were around the same but the care was not as good.

  • CHASESGILBERT

    Sorry a religious event and its rituals are depressing to you.

  • Robert Perris

    Community Board 2 (CB2) held its June general meeting at St. Ann’s Warehouse last night. “Crime issues at BBP” was neither on the agenda nor raised independently thereof.

  • StudioBrooklyn

    Do we know what religious event this was? I couldn’t find any Jewish holidays that occurred yesterday.

    By the way, Chase, a lot of ritual Jewish/Hebrew music is purposefully morose-sounding. Ever heard of the Kol Nidre? Even the melody of the Israeli national anthem, HaTikvah, is just “Twinkle Twinkle Little Star” set in a minor key.

  • CHASESGILBERT

    Yes, I’m Jewish myself. Whatever one’s melodic tastes, somebody was (presumably) praying. It’s not like someone was having a rave on Montague Street.

    It was more likely “breakfast” for Muslims observing Ramadan.

    The original comment / complaint just seemed pretty petty to me.

  • cat

    I don’t care if it’s Barbra Streisand singing at that time of night. This is a neighborhood, (a once quiet neighborhood) not Times Square. A fact, I wish the Casino would keep in mind when they blast music at 1 am in the morning. At the very least, is it to much to ask to close the windows?

  • StudioBrooklyn

    “I’m Jewish myself”

    Yes, I remember you stating that a while ago during a conversation with JS.

    “Whatever one’s melodic tastes, somebody was (presumably) praying…The original comment seemed petty”

    To be fair, invasive noise is invasive noise to those whose tranquility it interrupts. I don’t really see why one person or group being too loud in a certain place and at a certain time should get a pass just because what they’re doing can be called prayer, while another should have the cops called on them because their noise is related to entertainment.

    (Aside: I’m anti-noise pollution, in general, and I’m also whatever the opposite of religious is, but I’m a big fan of the Azan, or the Islamic call to prayer; I think it’s a gorgeous sound to hear early in the morning or at twilight, especially when it’s sung really well [one example: https://youtu.be/oolV-slw_AM. However, I’d be surprised if there was a Ramadan-related event at the Bossert; I’ve only seen workmen and religious Jews going in and out since construction began.)

  • StudioBrooklyn

    I also really like Tears For Fears but I’m not sure how I’d feel about being woken up by them at some hour when I’d reasonably be sleeping.

  • StoptheChop

    there’s another office on Columbia Place

  • Love Laner

    They did have some big do there last night with valet parking. So the lobby level must be relatively complete. But, like you mentioned, I heavily suspect that the upper floors all need a massive amount of work.

  • gcarl

    I don’t think the Bossert is actually functioning (as I walked by it earlier in the evening and they were setting up the party–I thought it might be a Jewish wedding as I saw a Hassidic jew in there), and it looked like the building was still under construction. The event was happening on the first floor with windows wide open. I am also Jewish, but no special interest group should be allowed to disturb the piece of a neighborhood. Free s speech goes only so far. I also live near right next door to the Casino and have been disturbed by their parties often well into the hight. The Bossert is half a block away from me and I heard everything loud and clear. This is not just the fault of the partygoers; the venue must be held responsible for what goes on in it. Either they should keep their windows closed or provide the space with better sound insulation. If this first floor venue space right on Montague Street will continue to be rented out by the Bossert, you can expect to be offended by loud music or noise from here on out, especially in the Summer, when windows are thrown open. This goes for the Casino as well; they have long gotten away with this.

  • gcarl

    Whiles I don’t think the Bossert is actually functioning (as I walked by it earlier in the evening and they were setting up the party–I thought it might be a Jewish wedding as I saw a Hassidic jew in there), and it looked like the building was still under construction. The event was happening on the first floor with windows wide open. I am also Jewish, but no special interest group should be allowed to disturb the piece of a neighborhood. Free s speech goes only so far. I also live near right next door to the Casino and have been disturbed by their parties often well into the hight. The Bossert is half a block away from me and I heard everything loud and clear. This is not just the fault of the partygoers; the venue must be held responsible for what goes on in it. Either they should keep their windows closed or provide the space with better sound insulation. If this first floor venue space right on Montague Street will continue to be rented out by the Bossert, you can expect to be offended by loud music or noise from here on out, especially in the Summer, when windows are thrown open. This goes for the Casino as well; they have long gotten away with this.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlsiLOnWCoI Arch Stanton

    “It’s not like someone was having a rave on Montague Street”
    Actually it would be cool to get some nightlife back in the hood.

  • AEB

    Or just…life. Though I realize one can’t have seven drugstores and it too.

  • well, you know who

    This kid Amazing…I’m totally on the side watching and the same geniuses are doing exactly the same destructive/ disruptive behavior totally without me! Hey claudio, why don’t you enforce some rules with present company… especially certain well, “musicians”…..

  • You know who this is

    Hey, what if I and my friends were in the Bassett and loudly singing screwdriver lyrics? Imaging the protests, but when it’s certain…well do I have to continue?

    Let’s see, Dah Dah dah dah Dah!…..

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlsiLOnWCoI Arch Stanton

    We actually are up to seven aren’t we…

  • gcarl

    Actually, I don’t know who this is, and I don’t understand anything you have written.

  • AEB

    We are.

  • CHASESGILBERT

    I’m anti-noise pollution myself. But I
    try and make exceptions when it’s a religious get together, a wedding etc.

    More importantly, I’d never live on a commercial Main Street like Montague and complain about noise from a hotel. Especially before midnight.

    I literally live on the opposite side of the casino (Pierrepont) and didn’t hear a peep.

  • StudioBrooklyn

    Tragedy strikes Brooklyn Heights: St Ann’s students have discovered vaping at 10:30 on a Friday morning https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/52f94653d38a138fb0eae22250b2fbfaa18e799b897985cc1ac9ac5e67824ae4.jpg

  • StudioBrooklyn

    “I try and make exceptions”

    Best to use cat litter for added stability on that slippery slope. ;)

  • Squiggy

    I live on Montague Street. I went to bed Wednesday night at 11:30 and suddenly heard music blasting. It sounded like some sort of folk music, but incredibly loud. It was echoing off the buildings, so it was impossible to tell where it was from. I got dressed and went down to the street. A number of neighbors from my building and other buildings were there as well. It turned out to be coming from the roof of the Bossert. You could see a number of people on the deck highlighted by flashing blue concert lights. We all headed to the hotel to complain. Turned out to be some sort of Orthodox Jewish wedding or party—not clear. I only mention this because when we complained about the noise, we were immediately accused of anti-Semitism. I could care less who was there, but the volume
    at that level at that or any hour from any one was unconscionable. The noise stopped. We all started walking home, and the music
    immediately started up again at full volume. Back we went, and then things started to get
    really nasty. Some guy told us he was
    the owner and that we were trespassing and he could do whatever he wanted with
    his building. Another neighbor tried to go into the lobby. He was pushed against the side of the building by several men and held. I
    called 911 at that point. I had tried to
    call the 84th precinct several times but only got a recording. Don’t know if any of the others in our group got through. I was pretty rattled. The music then stopped and the neighbor was
    released and walked away. Never saw the police show up. I thought an agreement limiting noise from the roof had been reached? I seem to recall seeing it, but couldn’t find it on-line. I’m surprised that an event would be permitted, since the renovation is
    still ongoing. I’m not a complainer, but
    this was extremely disturbing and I hope not a sign of things to come.

  • Middagh_Girl

    Gumbo on Atlantic offers them.

  • http://selfabsorbedboomer.blogspot.com/ Claude Scales

    “I lived with him on Montague Street,
    “In a basement down the stairs,
    “There was music in the cafes at night,
    “And revolution in the air.”
    –Bob Dylan, “Tangled Up in Blue”

  • ColumbiaHeightster

    Thanks.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlsiLOnWCoI Arch Stanton

    Good to see they’re still carrying on with the old traditions.

  • CHASESGILBERT

    Only a joy kill Scrooge would call the police about singing from a wedding or religious ceremony. Especially after they chose to live on a commercial street like Montague.

  • mlcraryville

    Noise, common sense, respect for neighbors and the law.
    LIke other more recebnt disruptive occurences our tranquility is under seige.
    The Park Corporation sets a low standard for concern about our peaceful enjoyment of our homes and streets.
    The Bossert owner seems to take its cue from them.
    Fortunately there is law rooted in the simple idea that: “The making, creation or maintenance of excessive and unreasonable
    and prohibited noises within the city affects and is a menace to public health, comfort, convenience, safety, welfare and the prosperity of the
    people of the city.”
    Let us forcefully remind the owners of our rights as neighbors and put them on notice that we will seek to have them enforced. Perhaps the BHA could again take the lead in yet one more skirmish for sanity in the neighborhood.

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