Open Thread Wednesday

By on May 21, 2019 11:39 pm in open thread

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  • CassieVonMontague
  • Jorale-man

    Too bad, but it looks like the 1959 original was butchered quite a bit over the years.

  • Jorale-man

    Kind of amusing: “Mayor Bill de Blasio’s use of the Brooklyn Heights Promenade as a prop in his presidential announcement video on Thursday brought swift scorn from those who noted that he recently proposed demolishing the iconic site.” https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/05/16/de-blasio-chooses-promenade-he-wanted-to-tear-down-as-prop-for-presidential-bid/

  • CassieVonMontague
  • CHatter

    I sorta liked the original proposal (the limestony one that Landmarks rejected as “too timid and self-effacing”, whatever that means for an apartment building) better, but this one seems fine too. Both are better than the existing structure. An all-too-rare development = improvement story.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7nPOzGeyaw Arch Stanton

    The arrogance of that incompetent buffoon is appalling. I Don’t know anyone who likes him, Yet he got voted back in…

  • Nicole

    Keyfoods on Montague St are unloading their trucks earlier and earlier….5:30am today! 311 is of no help….suggestions?

  • Jorale-man

    Yes, he’s completely checked out. Shades of the mayors NYC suffered under during the 1970s. There weren’t any real alternatives in the last election unfortunately.

  • cool

    I was scouting places to eat on google maps and noticed that Iris Cafe and Willowtown #7 closed. I’m late to this – are they going back in or anything replacing them?

  • http://www.yotamzohar.com StudioBrooklyn

    A former manager from Iris Cafe is opening an “upscale new American” place where Iris used to be. He told me this in person several weeks ago.

  • Proto Plano

    I suggest calling the 84th precinct to inquire or write to one of the NCOs for BHs. https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/bureaus/patrol/precincts/84th-precinct.page

    Alternatively just write to the owner of Key Food Montague, Enrico Palazio

    keyfoodmontague@gmail.com

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7nPOzGeyaw Arch Stanton

    You want to eat? trucks gotta deliver the food, it’s that simple. 311 rightfully ignored such a nonsensical complaint.

  • http://www.yotamzohar.com StudioBrooklyn

    I agree but big picture we should be talking about emissions zoning with warehouses outside the city where larger trucks are offloaded to smaller, environmentally and transportationally friendlier vehicles. (This would help with the BQE solution too!) KF doesn’t ever need or order a semi truck’s worth of goods from any one supplier.

  • Andrew Porter
  • Andrew Porter

    The heading photo shows not only a great building, but a post office, at least in one of the Muppet movies.

    A little late this week, here’s another neighborhood image courtesy the Municipal Archives. The corner of Henry and Middagh in 1962:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e9cd5835663c109ca99d0c546ef1bffd2842ddd6c60f1379034184862ba7a4ab.png

  • Eddyde

    No but Key Food gets most of its goods, delivered in bulk, from its own distribution warehouse. Not sure how you imagine splitting those deliveries into multiple vehicles will ease traffic or pollution. And where is “outside the city”?

  • DIBS

    Agree. More smaller trucks isn’t the right answer. One large trailer delivering to several KFs is optimal for everyone.

  • Jorale-man

    The Hill Country Barbecue food court on Adams Street is shutting down after just 5 months in business: http://gothamist.com/2019/05/28/hill_country_hanks_closing.php

  • http://www.yotamzohar.com StudioBrooklyn

    I imagine splitting those deliveries into multiple vehicles will ease traffic because cargo vans can make it from Montague onto Hicks without having to do a 5-point turn. I imagine they will ease pollution because they pollute exponentially less than tractor-trailers, particularly newer vans that pass inspection.

    And I’d define “outside the city” by a combination of residential density—not sure what a good number is but I’m sure we could find one—and actual geography.

  • Eddyde

    In terms of fuel per pound moved, the larger the vehicle the more efficient it is to transport cargo, ie, a truck is more efficient than a car a train is more efficient than a truck, a ship is more efficient than a train. More vehicles = more traffic + the cost of more drivers, fuel, maintenance, tolls, etc. would add significantly to the cost of goods.
    So push distribution warehouses to the suburbs? I doubt they will be welcome there.

  • http://www.yotamzohar.com StudioBrooklyn

    The days of vehicles using carcinogenic fuel are numbered. So are the days of vehicles needing human drivers. We should be thinking in terms of decades and centuries ahead, not in terms of months ahead.

  • Eddyde

    “carcinogenic fuel” I wasn’t aware of any reputable study that said vehicle emissions were functionally carcinogenic? Anyway, I’m no luddite, yes those technologies are on the horizon but it will be decades before they are ubiquitous. Not sure if the distraction of early morning deliveries at Key Food will accelerate their development.

  • http://www.yotamzohar.com StudioBrooklyn

    By carcinogenic I mean fuel that is burned or combusted to create energy (and which gives off emissions in the form of exhaust fumes). I admit I could be using inaccurate terms here (not an engineer) but I don’t think it’s hard to understand what was meant.

    And I’m not suggesting KF changing their delivery methods will impact broader standards but rather, the other way around: that the standards should be changed and that KF’s delivery woes are an example of a problem that could be solved that way.