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  • Banet

    In case you missed it, an article on the potential massive increase in dangerous particulates from the “innovative” plan:

    https://brooklyneagle.com/brooklyn-today/citys-bqe-plan-could-bring-dangerous-levels-of-toxic-pollution-to-brooklyn-heights/

  • Jorale-man

    The NY Post has a take on this story too, with quotes from several neighbors: https://nypost.com/2018/12/18/bqe-repairs-will-unleash-toxic-hellstorm-on-brooklyn-experts

  • Reggie

    I wonder how many times Ms. Garrett has expressed similar concerns on behalf of the residents of the Fort Greene Houses. Just sayin’.

  • http://www.yotamzohar.com StudioBrooklyn

    Point well taken, though perhaps it doesn’t undermine hers. No doubt they need similar advocacy?

  • Andrew Porter

    Here are more photos from before the BQE was built, showing the upper reaches of Willow Street. All these buildings were torn down, in this and my 3 replies. Photos courtesy the Municipal Archives.

    4 Willow Street:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8a1010c70326b65b8c85b6fc95784b879009bcb4091d8108d014e95a3fcccdc5.png

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  • Brian Johnson

    Andrew – those photos are nice but you should be linking to the Municipal Archives website and not posting the images in violation of copyright. You say “courtesy of Municipal Archives” but I highly doubt they gave you permission to post photos which are watermarked and are sold on their own site. I also doubt they gave you permission to alter them (you wrote last week “I just finished working on 140+ images of the Heights off the Municipal Archives—boosting contrast and sharpness, etc….”).

  • Joe

    Shut up.

  • CassieVonMontague

    Is a global health expert not allowed to comment on an infrastructure plan that will be implemented next to where she lives?

    I wonder how many awards she has to win for investigating Ebola, AIDS and Global Pandemics before you’ll allow her to speak about her own neighborhood’s issues.

  • SongBirdNYC

    Thank you Brian. Actually Joe, the blog has repeatedly informed Andrew, albeit lovingly, that his posted photos are often in violation of copyright. This is not done out of stodginess or “goodie two shoes” mindset attitudes.

  • W.R.

    Photos are part of the public domain according to the Municipal Archive. No copyright issues here!

  • Teresa

    It’s a losing battle, Brian. I’ve reminded him on a number of occasions, and he refuses to abide by basic copyright rules. If you are concerned, you can flag the post and report it to admins.

  • Teresa

    Photos over 100 years old are in the public domain. This is what the Municipal Archives site says about using the photos.

    Spoiler: it does not say that cutting and pasting is OK.

    https://www1.nyc.gov/site/records/about/terms-and-conditions.page

  • MaggieO

    not sure where you’re getting that WR – from their website “The NYC Municipal Archives Online Gallery provides research access to over 900,000 items digitized from the Municipal Archives’ vast holdings, including photographs, maps, motion-pictures and audio recordings. Some of the images in the Online Gallery may be subject to third-party rights such as copyright and/or rights of privacy/publicity.”

  • CassieVonMontague

    Anyone else still hearing the low rumble from the boiler on Montague? I’m going to keep asking, because I want to make sure it’s not coming from somewhere in my building/apartment.

  • Herman on Henry

    Girls! Girls! Girls!

  • Daddyo

    I don’t understand the concerns about pollution. Isn’t the entire BH area air already incredibly polluted by the current BQE traffic? Would the proposed Promenade Expressway increase pollution vs. current levels? How? (I’m not advocating for the “innovative” solution but think the whole air pollution argument is specious as the highway is right there already!)

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7nPOzGeyaw Arch Stanton

    Exactly, The wind is almost always coming from the west thus blows all the exhaust fumes from the BQE right through the Heights, no matter what.

  • Andrew Porter

    Yes they did give me permission, provided I add the credit. So you have no right to complain.

  • CassieVonMontague

    The expert mentions in the article that the overhang creates some protection for the neighborhood. Having traffic at the same level as homes increases the pollution. Looking at the map in the article I don’t know how much I believe this.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7nPOzGeyaw Arch Stanton

    The poster didn’t say the author of the article ‘wasn’t allowed to express her opinion’ just questioned its validity.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7nPOzGeyaw Arch Stanton

    The traffic produces thousands of cubic feet of exhaust gases every minute most of which are lighter than air and hot (which also makes them lighter) thus they rise up and get blown into the hood. The overhang does nothing to prevent that.

  • Nomcebo Manzini

    Actually, this one IS easy, although I won’t bore you with science – maybe, there WILL BE a credible study before Cuomo and diBlasio – these ARE the guys who talked a good game re LICH until they decided that developers were more important than (for BDB) his former constitutents.

    THANK the prevailing winds that blow in the lovely harbor between the Heights and Wall Street for dispersing much of both the noxious gases and the toxic micro particles! … Now walk the Promenade – while you still have the chance. You’re as likely to catch a breeze there as you are on Willow St. – i.e., every now & then.

    THAT makes a big difference – true, not to planet Earth – and that’s why building the temporary (8 years or so) roadways near Furman Street makes more sense. Our City has a lot to answer for, but gassing a community ought to be beyond the pale.

    And then there’s noise pollution. There was a NYT photo and article yesterday talking about “adjustments” people in California near cannabis farms have to make – gas masks among them.

    COMING SOON! (them and keeping one’s windows shut 24-7) to the neighborhood that’s 2 thirds of this blog’s name!

    BP Adams & Councilman Levin – you have to do a little better on this one than you did re “One Clinton!”

  • Jorale-man

    It’s all in the Eagle article. Without the “cover” of the Promenade, the effects of the dirty air would be much more direct on the neighborhood.

  • South Brooklyn Boys

    Keep posting Andrew. I look forward to them every week.

  • South Brooklyn Boys

    Brian,the whole amazing genre of Rap was based on sampling. Have you never done anything without permission?

  • http://members.brownstoner.com/gwc gwc

    That would be “spent billions of dollars”

  • gatornyc

    Actually it’s not all in the Eagle article. There is only an assertion that the Promenade acts as an overhang but no evidence supporting the assertion whatsoever. Just from a common sense perspective (and basic understanding of the relevant science), I don’t buy that the Promenade acts as an overhang in any significant way. The prevailing winds and width of the Promenade would militate against the assertion.