Open Thread Wednesday

Our nearby downtown neighborhood continues to evolve. A new building plan has been filed for 146 Pierrepont.

Plan is for a mixed use building with 68 dwelling units and 6,200 sq. ft. of commercial space. Building will be 185 feet high and have 19 stories.

NYC DOB details at:

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=1&passjobnumber=320908041&passdocnumber=01

Thanks, RJG. Scary. It is wrong, wrong, wrong and very bad planning for multiple high rise developments to abut and tower over low rise neighborhoods. Mandated open space buffers are needed, at the least.

On the brighter side, NY1 reports this a.m. that the City Council is poised to shut down the tourist copters operating out of the downtown heliport.

The choppers move out, the jackhammers move in.

OK, well say hello to the crips and the bloods, loud music, traffic jams, loads of out of town “tour” types annually and thinned out/ruduced public safety resources all to Regina’s wonderful (new palisades) park.

Very promising news about the bill to reduce the chopper traffic and noise, but at the moment it is just a bill being drafted, and clearly will face opposition from tour companies. Interesting that it is being proposed by the Councilman representing District 38 (Red Hook, south through Sunset Park, where the issue is probably less pronounced). I hope we can assume Councilman Levin is going to offer vocal support?

the crips and the bloods???

You may or may not be aware, but Brooklyn Heights has had affordable housing since the 70’s and i don’t see any criminal activity that has been based in BH (that isn’t white collar)?

What you SHOULD be concerned with is the amount of PEOPLE (regardless of income) that all these new buildings are bringing to BH. A BH that lacks adequate resources to handle such an influx of people.

You speak often as someone who has live here their whole life, as i have i…yet you seem to lack the very thing that makes BH great..the fact that we live in a place without prejudice (well almost without, you may be the exception).

i hear they are staying, finally i don’t have to pee on the promenade!

Nice “manners” from a “life long resident” displaying just the diivrrsity to be via!used….ugh! By the way, although they don’t often post, kids 15 years and under do read these comments, so…

You failed in your response…i gave examples of the fact for the last 40 years we have had buildings that are for affordable housing in BH and we haven’t had an influx of crime bc of it….you showed me no proof that your doomsday attitude about lower social economic classes in based in any facts, while i showed you factual evidence. And furthermore, there are going to be bad apples in any group of people…it probably accounts for 5%, regardless of class.

The only threat is your outdated attitude.

I keep trying to get the dog to leave the tourist buses alone.

My response was very adequate and accurate. Perhaps not in your distorted view.

We have tons of low income seniors and long term residents in this area. This has NEVER been a problem.

But this is largely because they are culture bearing elements or at least admirers of the unique and highly valuable culture and heritage of the Heights.

What the park has ALREADY brought in is people who either don’t or to a very reduced level even understand let alone value the unique treasure they are passing through.

And again, YOU didn’t properly address the danger issue. If ONE assailant like the ones who opened fire in the park approaches a loved one and that ONE assailant represents .O000001 percent of park users…how would you (or anyone reading this) feel about it?

And please, no more vulgarity or obscenity on these pages…..

And can we get by without PC attempts to limit honest community comment?

Really, can we get past the Frankfurt school then the late 60’s SDS-oid nonsense of using the R word every time you start to loose a debate or anyone wants to avoid a subject being examined….

Besides canards, can you speak to my above points on PC and the use of the R word to limit (fully legitimate) national discourse? ….

It’s quite pronounced in Red Hook– they fly right by Valentino Park. And other electeds have already said they support a ban, so we’ll see how engaged they are in the drafting, hearings, etc. But now would be a great time to contact them to keep pressing the issue! http://www.stopthechopnynj.org/supportive-officials.html

As we know, jackhammers, backup alarms, waivers of the noise code to permit after-hours construction all pose serious health hazards.
Noise is more than a pesky annoyance.

A Curbed editorial argues for a Brooklyn Bridge scenic view district: “The Brooklyn Bridge deserves offense, not defense, because there will always be a developer dangling a middle school, a glass tower shown as transparent in the renderings, a forgotten agreement, an offensive mechanical unit. The Brooklyn Bridge needs a special zoning district of its own: an invisible tube stretching from the anchorages on one side of the East River to those on the other, elastic enough to reach to the Brooklyn Heights Promenade and Police Plaza, both raised, public platforms that offer distinctive, leveled-up perspectives on the roadway.” http://curbed.com/archives/2015/07/08/alexandra-lange-brooklyn-bridge-park-south-street-seaport.php