47 Story Building to Rise at Montague and Cadman Plaza West

By on March 24, 2024 10:32 pm in 11201, Architecture, Brooklyn Heights, Brooklyn History, Development, Real Estate, Sports

According to New York YIMBY developer Jonathan Landau has filed for permits to construct a 47 story mixed commercial and residential building at 205 Montague Street (see photo from Google Maps). While the building now there fronts on Montague, it extends along Cadman Plaza West to Pierrepont Street. It presently houses TD Bank’s branch. Word is that TD will move to another space on Montague. We suspect, and hope, that it will be the space at 183 Montague, formerly occupied by Citibank, which has a pre-built banking layout.

While we don’t have a rendering of what the new building, to be designed by Hill West Architects, will look like, Brownstoner did an illustration of a 700 foot tall building, the maximum allowed for the site. The proposed building is to be 672 feet tall.

One matter of historical note: the building that stood on the site of the present 205 Montague, and that had the address 215 Montague, held the headquarters of the Brooklyn Dodgers until they moved to L.A., and was where the Dodgers made history by signing Jackie Robinson, the first Black baseball player to be signed to a Major League contract. There’s a plaque on the present 205 Montague commemorating this. We presume the new owner will preserve it and put it on the new building.

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  • Peter Darrow

    The Citi building has been bought by the Saint Ann’s School.

  • Charlie Petty

    Love it – need more housing and more people in the neighborhood to support local businesses and increase the economic dynamism of one of the greatest urban districts in America.

  • Nosey Neighbor

    But the shadows!

    Just kidding. You’re spot on, Charlie!

  • MaggieO

    now we just need some updates on what’s going to happen to the old Saint Francis buildings on Remsen/Joralemon.

  • http://selfabsorbedboomer.blogspot.com/ Claude Scales

    That doesn’t necessarily preclude TD using the banking space, and thereby providing St. Ann’s with rental income, while St. Ann’s uses the upper floors.

  • Nomcebo Manzini

    I happen to use that bank (“Citi”), but it would be great to have some clarity here, in that they moved in the last year or 2 “up the block” (toward) the site of the new (proposed ?) construction. I assume that it’s the “old” (vacated at street level) building that Peter & you are talking about. Yes?

    Is there a link?

    Are we talking add-on stories like the Chase branch next door?

  • Effective Presenter

    This is NOT a beautiful location that will command these projected asking prices that are VERY high.

  • Effective Presenter

    This is NOT a beautiful location that will command the projected asking prices that are VERY high.

    We don’t see this location as Brooklyn Heights it is Downtown Brooklyn.

  • Karl Junkersfeld

    EP, I got to disagree with you as far as location is concerned. This is an excellent location for transportation, parks, views, and nearest to Brooklyn Bridge Park in particular. My goodness, this is Brooklyn Heights.

    146 Pierrepont commands $6300 for a one bedroom and that location is not as convenient. One Clinton also has a one bedroom available for $6300.

    Those high rents are mostly attributable to location. I would assume this building will be the same quality with premium amenities and construction.

  • Banet

    You’re pretty out of touch with the times. 1 Clinton – above the library – is not as good of a location. And it commands top dollar. This building, if built well, will sell quickly. There are quite a few wealthy families in the neighborhood who, once their kids go to college, prefer a full service building to a brownstone. That’s what this will likely be.

  • Banet

    The old citi building will be used by Saint Ann’s – from basement to roof – but only the Pierrepont half. The Montague half is a different building (remember how it sort of “jogs” inside?) and its fate is unknown. Maybe TD bank will move there?

  • Karl Junkersfeld

    Banet, I assume you are responding to EP not me since I agree with you 100%.

  • Jorale-man

    Yuck. Completely out of context with its surroundings, if one goes by the Brownstoner illustration. And it deposits more crowds onto Montague and surrounding streets. Many of us moved to BH for a certain sense of quiet and human scale, and for not mega-skyscrapers hovering over us. And yes, I am proudly a “NIMBY” on this matter. ;-)

  • Banet

    Karl, correct. Sorry about the poor placement of my reply.

    For all those lamenting this being out of scale for our beloved Brooklyn Heights – while this is (barely) in the boundaries of the Heights it’s well outside the boundaries of the historic district. That entire block is outside the district – that why 3 new tall buildings went up on that block in the last 20 years.

  • Nosey Neighbor

    I was once a NIMBY like you. I was disgusted when they built 180 Montague. I was all about context and height restrictions. But then I had a turning point when the BHA fought hard against 80 Flatbush. I’m all for preserving our historic district. But they are using their clout to kneecap growth in the rest of Brooklyn. If you can’t build high-density housing above the second busiest train station in the United States, where can you build it? Then I had a true road to Damascus moment when my children started school and I met parents who lived in 180 Montague, 1 Clinton, the Landing at Brooklyn Bridge Park. You can’t tell me that all of them would’ve found another 2-bedroom in the neighborhood.

    This reminds me of a time I was talking with my 93-year-old neighbor many years ago. She was fretting because they were converting 109 Columbia Heights into rental apartments. “There will be too many people and they won’t be good neighbors like the JW’s”. She really didn’t want it to happen. I miss her, but in the end it didn’t matter. She never lived to meet all of our wonderful new neighbors.

  • Nosey Neighbor

    I’m sorry. I must’ve gotten overwhelmed while typing. Of course Atlantic Terminal is not the second busiest station in the United States. I was thinking of Jamaica Station which is the third busiest. I apologize to all the train buffs. You can completely ignore my comment because I obviously have no idea what I’m talking about.

  • Jorale-man

    Fair points. I don’t doubt the need for places for people to live and new construction certainly has its appeal. But decent urban planning should also include some element of designing harmonious streetscapes, where buildings relate to one another and are not simply competing to see how they can cast shadows over their neighbors. Otherwise, every street becomes an ugly hodgepodge of heights and styles with no unifying character (see 57th Street in Manhattan). Probably one of the original sins of the Heights Historic District was not extending it all the way to Court Street on every block…

  • Nosey Neighbor

    Thank you for the civil response even though we disagree. This place used to get very heated when discussing new developments, with lots of name calling thrown about.

  • clarknt67

    It still offers most of the same advantages, close to public trans, close to elite schools of St Ann’s and Packer, plus well-regarded Public School. Access to park and playground. Quiet tree lined streets to the west, shopping, restaurants. Honestly downgrading just because it’s Montague st vs Columbia Heights sounds extremely elitist. It’s still one of the best locations in the city.

  • clarknt67

    How can we complain simultaneously about Montague’s empty storefronts and overcrowding the streets? We kinda have to pick one or the other.

  • clarknt67

    Yeah. I am a big preservationist but also support the high density builds downtown. It’s as good as anywhere with public trans and manhattan proximity. And this is literally across Montague from the Downtown Brooklyn Skyscraper historic district. Maybe it’s 100 feet taller than I would have like but it seems ok to me. I think of it more downtown adjacent vs Brooklyn Heights. It’s not like Cadmen Plaza West and Court are quiet residential streets. They are busy thoroughfares.

  • clarknt67

    It will sit literally across montague street from the Montague–Court Building which is a 35-story, 462 ft tall commercial office tower at 16 Court Street. So it’s not entire devoid of similar street context.

  • Sw60

    You can’t compare 1 Clinton to this new structure

  • Sw60

    This one will be the wake up call, not a future success for the neighborhood.

  • Sw60

    Yes Yes and Yes, that’s a Bingo!

  • Sw60

    I lived in Concord Village which I never considered to be BH being so close to Sands street the former Brooklyn Red Light district from way back I was lucky enough to move to early Dumbo when there was Parkers Lighhouse restaurant I always felt in comparison to BH we in Dumbo were the quiet. Today Williamsburg BH and Dumbo I occasionally visit all are over developed

  • Sw60

    BOOM!

  • Sw60

    It’s out of control for good.

  • Sw60

    Curious so there are 6 opportunities below Adam’s street that St.Anns could have considered like 345 adams and could have received premium rents from developing the property

  • gc

    ee

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