Pedestrian Killed Crossing Atlantic at Clinton

According to Carroll Gardens Patch, a 66 year old man, identified as an employee of Oriental Pastry and Grocery on Atlantic Avenue, was struck and killed by an eastbound car while he was crossing Atlantic at Clinton Street at about 8:30 p.m. yesterday (Sunday, August 9). The 26 year old driver of the car remained on the scene; the cause remains under investigation.

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  • Arch Stanton

    I wasn’t implying the victim in this case was looking at his cellphone. However, it seems some of the reports say he was indeed jaywalking (crossing mid block), if so, it was his own fault. You seem to paraphrase Trans Alt rhetoric/slogans “great killing machines”…etc… Their denomination of drivers and putting all the blame for traffic accidents on motorists actually puts more lives in jeopardy as doesn’t emphasize the fact that pedestrians as well as drivers must be aware, be hyper aware or pay the price.

  • T.K. Small

    My mother lives in the building right above the bagel shop, so I am in that area pretty frequently. That intersection has always been treacherous and I am exceedingly careful in crossing the street. As a fellow person in a wheelchair, I am interested in knowing more about the tragedy mentioned above. Was there a posting about the accident on BHB? So far, I haven’t found anything.

  • Willow Street Watch

    No, but it EVERYTHING to do with governmental and private policy forming groups irresponsibility and the normal and very healthy public response to what was then….and unfortunately still now, occurring.

  • Willow Street Watch

    The real way to really honor this good man’s memory is for people to demand far more and better police protection and far more hard prosecutions of the kind of behavior you have on Atlantic.

    One really good way to honor this loss would be a law disbanding the totally failed accident investigation unit and establishing a separate independent agency, properly staffed and funded to investigate accidents especially if a fatality occurs. THAT’s the way to REALLY honor this good man: with systemic change!

  • Concerned

    A driver has the duty to see what there is to be seen, to be in control of his vehicle and to follow the speed limit. A person who is jay walking may be at fault for getting hit, but may not as well. Or, driver and pedestrian could both be at fault. However, if you are walking, you are only putting your own life in danger when you jay walk. If you are driving unsafely, you are putting MANY lives at risk. Your line: “be hyper aware or pay the price” is foolish, contra to the law and to how society as a whole works. If you want to have to be “hyper aware or pay the price”, I suggest you move to a lawless location. That or buy a bubble to walk around in, because it is impossible for pedestrians to be “hyper aware” at all times.

  • Greg

    If you look at pictures of the scene you can clearly see the “mid-block” argument isn’t right. They show debris 10 feet outside the crosswalk, and since the car was traveling eastbound it was obviously going to knock a victim outside of the crosswalk even if they were right in the middle of it.

    It’s really hard to see a scenario where driver negligence doesn’t play a role here.

  • Arch Stanton

    What if he was crossing against the light?

  • Arch Stanton

    First I want to make it clear. I am not defending bad drivers or those who break the law.
    On your first point:
    Yes a driver does have that duty. However, a driver must be aware of not only what is in front of them but behind and to the side as well, pedestrians, cyclists and other cars, trucks etc. It is impossible for anyone to see and keep track of all these factors at the exact same time. Therefor, driving is not a perfectly safe operation, it will always be inherently dangerous. That’s why it is imperative pedestrians not put themselves in a position where a driver MUST see them, or else…
    2. Wrong you are. A jaywalker does indeed pose a very real danger to others. The driver of a vehicle can be injured or killed from the collision directly, or by attempting to avoid hitting them and colliding into other vehicles or people, potentially injuring them or killing them as well.
    3. By “Hyper Aware” I mean pay undivided attention to what’s going on when crossing the street. If you think that’s foolish advice, you are the fool.
    It is you who seems to have a “bubble” mentality. You do not have a right for the law to guarantee you perfectly safety anywhere at any time.
    Pedestrians have the right of way, under the law but that does not mean they have the right to walk out into the street when it’s not their time or place and expect drives will stop.

  • EnoughIsEnough

    This sickens me. I was hit by a car at Henry & Atlantic a little over a year ago. I was crossing in the crosswalk with the walk sign and was hit by a green cab who was making a left turn. I did not even see him coming because I didn’t think to look behind me over my right shoulder as I was crossing the street (which is now, sadly, what I do). He stayed on the scene, so he did not even get so much as a ticket, and the police report states that I ‘ran into his vehicle.” I am one of the lucky ones who did not sustain severe injuries or get killed. It is clear to me that laws need to change in this city. I tried writing to various govt officials and calling 311, but to no avail. Every time I read about a pedestrian accident on Atlantic I get the chills. My heart goes out to the victim’s family. And to anyone reading this comment- please, please look in all directions when you cross Atlantic, including behind you.

  • Bornhere

    If he was crossing north to south and the car was driving south to north (and making a right on Atlantic), both would have had a green light.

  • Arch Stanton

    Whats your point?

  • Bornhere

    Maybe I misunderstood you — I thought you were suggesting that he might have been crossing against the light.

  • Arch Stanton

    Yes thats correct. If the victim was crossing against the light and the vehicle was traveling straight (green light). Then it would be the victems fault.
    That is in response to Greg’s comment
    “It’s really hard to see a scenario where driver negligence doesn’t play a role here”
    But clearly there is.
    In your scenario, the driver would be at fault.

  • Willow Street Watch

    First. of all you have to go to the 84th precinct community council meeting which is held monthly and yell your head off. You can find out when the next meeting is by calling 718 875 6850. The committee running themeetings are NOT the police and they do everything Not to advertise where or when the meetings are. You should show up and yell bloody murder how the accident investigation service handled your injury. Then you have to attend the next community board meeting and again let them know what you endured. You should do this at 2000 db. But before you go to either I’d call the Heights press 718 422 7424 and the Brooklyn Paper 718 260 4505 and tell both what happened to you and you’re going to these meetings and there’s going to be a newsworthy incident there. It REALLY helps if you type up the text of your complaint and give it everyone attending as they enter…and don’t be too polite.

    If you want a list of REALLY effective (non lazy) law firms with LONG experience in the flood of taxi caused injuries to victims I can provide
    that. At least six well known Heights residents have been hit by these darlings. Each had injuries requiring over $40,000 in medical bills.
    Just let me know. By the way, there are professionals available to review an accident and the medical treatment you received. Both areas you very likely deserve serious levels of compensation.