Cops Turn Away Parkgoers At Pier 2 Basketball Courts

By on May 26, 2016 8:20 pm in 84th Precinct, brooklyn bridge park, Brooklyn Heights, News, Public Safety

According to today’s Gothamist report, parkgoers were shut out of the Pier 2 basketball courts starting at 3:30 p.m. yesterday. People who were already there were allowed to stay, but no one else was allowed in. NYPD confirmed that there was no particular incident, but that the shut-out was implemented to control the crowds. There was no head count given at the time, but an NYPD spokesperson said “it got very crowded.” The official capacity under the Pier 2 roof, encompassing the basketball courts, handball courts, and the roller rink, is 800 people.

Gothamist quoted an unnamed Brooklyn Heights resident as saying she and many neighbors were happy with the increased police action at Pier 2. “Brooklyn Bridge Park has really engaged with all the stakeholders. Everyone is very happy about that,” she said. A Brooklyn High School of the Arts student, Kahliyah Brown, didn’t agree. “It’s bad that people fight, but we all get to hang out and meet new people. The amount of cops that come here, they pressure us and make us feel a little unsafe rather than protected.”

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  • ColumbiaHeightster

    Sure, let’s stick to your intended point..how do you know the “top destinations” or the eating habits at all, of the other residents of Brooklyn Heights beyond those in your family/immediate social circle? Perhaps you are just making an assumption?

  • redlola

    and you’re assuming they are. please spend some time over there and see. My my teenage stepson used to visit, we would go there cause that is what he preferred (they don’t have shake shack and five guys where he lives). As such, I got a pretty solid sense of the patronage.

  • ColumbiaHeightster

    No, I’m not making any such assumptions at all. Re-read my posts – I never said anything like that. All I did was correct you and say that McDonald’s is in Brooklyn Heights. Again, how do you know what other people in this community eat? Because the folks in McDonald’s don’t look like you? Further, please don’t make any assumptions as to my knowledge of the neighborhood. You sound foolish. I spend PLENTY of time over there. I’m a regular customer of Bruno’s, Barnes & Noble, La Bagel Delight, Shelsky’s, etc…I could go on and on, but I walk that block several times a week. You don’t know me.

  • Concerned

    LOL! Don’t get caught up in this, Redlola. According to some of these people on this blog, because you don’t have scientific evidence that no one has, you can’t make an assumption. And if you make an assumption that has to do with less wealthy people, you’re a bad person and they try to discredit your points.
    Hey Columbiaheightster, what happened to this view, only two posts ago on the same thread!?!: “I can appreciate that people have different opinions on this blog, and that’s great, but that’s not an opinion”…
    I thought you said you could appreciate others opinions.

  • redlola

    But do you spend time inside the McDonald’s? Like actually purchasing food in it more than 1x a week at different points of the day. Sorry, Shelsky’s isn’t exactly an apples to apples comparison.

  • ColumbiaHeightster

    I said that I can appreciate “that people have” different opinions…by no means does that suggest that I appreciate the merits of an opinion reliant on faulty assumptions.

  • Concerned

    “Faulty assumptions…” Who says they’re faulty? You? I say you’re making a faulty assumption about what you call redlola’s “faulty” assumption. Now who’s on first?

  • redlola

    The faulty assumption is assuming that someone else’s assumption is faulty when you yourself have no evidence to the contrary. You never did respond to my question regarding how much time you as a Brooklyn Heights resident, have spent buying food in the McDonald’s on Court vs Shelsky’s, Bruno’s and La Bagel Delight. Sometimes we just have to be ok with calling stuff as it is.

  • ColumbiaHeightster

    Yes, in MY OPINION (which I’m entitled to maintain), the assumption is faulty. What exactly is the issue with that?

  • redlola

    StudioBrooklyn is truly Rumpelstiltskin for the strawman arguments he spends all day weaving. Of course, my “assumption” is faulty even though i have likely spent 3x the amount of the time in that McDonald’s as Columbia Heightster. She/he clearly has better insight on who is in there from breezing by to overpriced Shelsky’s. LMAO. This is such a farce. When someone argues with you that smoking weed illegally on the promenade in broad daylight is somehow superordinate to children not being exposed to that unnecessarily, there is not much further to go cause all reason has clearly been lost.

  • Concerned

    Yeah. Well, my experience is that everyone on this blog (except “He who must not be named” who was booted off this blog in the past) has good intentions. The reason I like to debate on the blog is you can see actual change. For example, many on this blog were arguing for no more police at BBP after last year’s shooting; some of those same people have shifted and are saying more police is fine and needed (but keep the courts). But you’re not going to get anywhere with the debate you’re on, now. To your point, pretty much every Sunday morning in the summer, I have McDonald’s, Popeye’s, or some other fast food bags/containers (and it really is shameless how MUCH is left at times. I mean, large bags of trash) left on the curb in front of my residence. It is pretty clear that it’s coming from some entity that doesn’t live in Brooklyn Heights, but I couldn’t prove it, so I can’t get traction with some on this blog. Either way, keep fighting the good fight and try not to get caught up in the little squabbles. Although StudioBrooklyn and Columbiaheightster can be annoyingly (maybe even dangerously at times) liberal and will fight you for your opposition, they have a pretty good history of being reasonable and open minded commenters.
    Either way, Redlola for mayor!!!

  • ColumbiaHeightster

    Dangerously annoying? Please do elaborate how my comments have been dangerous. I need to hear this.

  • StudioBrooklyn

    If you’d drop the attitude I think you’d find I can be incredibly receptive to other points of view, even if they’re qualified by lines like “I’m a big important lawyer” and “some of my best friends are black”. (I have black relatives too, and am very close to several fancy attorneys as well, and I wasn’t going to mention it except to illustrate something we have in common.) What I objected to is the rhetorical path you took with “such and such behavior is problematic for me because I don’t know how to talk to my kid about it” when that behavior is, or should be, the very least of our neighborly concerns.

    Look, I think it’s really tacky when people smoke—anything—, curse, or spit around kids. But I just don’t think that’s a serious problem in our particular part of Brooklyn, even where just our kids are concerned. I’m way more worried about overcrowding in the schools because of residential development, for example, and the strain that puts on programs our kids’ intellectual growth depends on. Nobody smoking weed on the promenade, whether they’re in eleventh grade at St. Anne’s or a welfare-leeching layabout from Canarsie, is putting you or your kid in any danger by doing so, and as a parent I’d encourage you to think of it as your privilege to figure out how to explain to your kid why you object to certain behaviors your kid may notice, and why those patterns of behavior exist. But one thing you definitely can’t do, especially in a place like New York City, is demand or expect those behaviors to go away simply because you find them objectionable, and furthermore there’s a valuable lesson to be learned in that truth which you might be denying your child from learning.

  • Concerned

    Dangerously liberal. Not annoying. I’d actually like to see what “dangerously annoying” would look like. I’m thinking something like Jim Carrey in “Dumb and Dumber”….
    Either way, I think that when it comes to crime and security of the neighborhood, we have to make some assumptions and we can’t just sit back and wait until we perform a bunch of studies as to crime rates, etc… while people are being put in danger. That’s where the “dangerously” comes from.

  • HistoryBuff
  • redlola

    I am an independent married to a Black man. I lean more left than right in most things. However, trying to find racism in everything and fighting tooth and nail to justify stuff that would not be acceptable to most is silly. Intimating that certain people cannot live up to normal standards of social interaction and should be given a pass is actually demeaning and racist. Why is not ok to just want comfort, peace and safety in one’s community. When I visit the communities of others, I don’t litter, steal phones or create other problems. Is it too much to expect the same in return?

  • ColumbiaHeightster

    Agreed – I think that most folks here do have good intentions. While we have different views of our community, I really believe that everyone in this space wants what is best for our neighborhood, even if we don’t agree as to what that looks like. I think that these differences are a good thing, and an important part of our fabric as Brooklynites.

  • StudioBrooklyn

    I’m much taller than Rumplestiltskin and slightly more reasonable, although in terms of general looks I guess we’re neck and neck. I also wanted to point out that for whatever it’s worth, I often see detritus from L&H, Starbucks, and Heights Deli strewn on the promenade. When it comes to littering, I believe it takes all kinds. And in regard to littering, I share your incredulity, but I don’t think Heights residents are innocent.

  • StudioBrooklyn

    “Dangerously liberal”? What am I, strapping you to a gurney and performing a glutenectomy in the middle of the night with a biodegradable scalpel?? I’m just not fearful of loud black kids, jeez!! ;)

  • Concerned

    For sure.

  • Ben A

    BHB, You need to actually open up a thread once in a while. Like once a day. I don’t understand what’s happening w this blog. Just open up a thread if you’re not going to do any stories. Or shut it down if nobody is interested in keeping it going

  • ColumbiaHeightster

    Personally, I take no offense to being called Dangerously Liberal. If I ever fall into a Jeffrey Smith-like rabbit hole of delusion, “Dangerous Liberal” will most definitely be one of my pseudonyms.

  • Concerned

    “Dangerously liberal” is somewhere between Trotsky and the Dixie Chicks…

  • CHatter

    Oh please don’t. We just got rid of the other nutter.

  • StudioBrooklyn

    One result of my own navel-gazing is my conclusion that I might hold liberal or conservative views on particular issues, and that assignment is on a case-by-case basis. But as Concerned knows all too well, I’m becoming increasingly more interested in whether attitudes address factual, broader patterns than whether they are [albeit rightfully] emotional responses to immediate perceptions. I think this makes me more pro-technocracy than “dangerously liberal,” but I think Concerned has a right to label me, if that helps with the dialogue.

  • StudioBrooklyn

    Trotsky’s performance at the Grand Ole Opry was a bit of a let-down, though the ice pick gag worked rather well, I thought.

  • Concerned

    “ice pick”… hmmmmm, that sounds familiar. Wasn’t one of those recovered after a pier 2 brawl? Or was it just a violent teenager with the nickname “Icepick” that I’m thinking about…

  • StudioBrooklyn

    The ice pick would have been found at Pier 2 only after they replaced the basketball courts with facilities for “whiter” activities, such as antarctic mountain climbing.

  • HistoryBuff

    I don’t disagree but I think it’s too late. redlola’s comments had a familiar edge to them so I went back and read through the Disqus history for Cindy S. I think Cindy and redlola are very close, perhaps they even work at the same law firm.

  • Concerned

    Yeah, except Trotsky was killed in Mexico by a Mexican…with an ice pick. U should try google. It’s full of information. But I think u already cited that.

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