BHB: Rapid real estate growth has resulted in over-crowding at P.S. 8. How will you address this shortfall of public elementary seats in Brooklyn Heights?
PS: Let me start from the bigger picture then [narrow] in. I’ve worked on education policy, helping to fight off hundreds of dollars of SUNY and CUNY tuition increases proposed by[Governor] Pataki .
On the other end of the spectrum I was part of the Mayor’s [de Blasio] campaign to push through universal Pre-K. We have to be certain that high-quality slots are appropriately distributed and sufficiently available in neighborhoods throughout the city, including in the 52nd Assembly District. It’s a two-year schedule of implementation to get to high-quality Pre-K for all the kids in the city, so as an assembly member I would be involved in making sure we got the correct number of slots to properly serve the community.
We have a big problem in the district with overcrowded schools. P.S. 8 is a good example of that; [they] had to cancel it’s Pre-K program because of space considerations. We need to be expanding services not cutting them. However P.S. 8 doesn’t have the space! What we need is think creatively about where we can get a new school located, how that would impact the district, and figure out how to do that within existing buildings. There are only a couple of new developments where it’s possible for there to be a school but we don’t know whether that would happen. What we should do is… go to the City—I would do this as an assembly member—and push for a feasibility study of where can we actually locate a new school on Court or on Montague Street so we can relieve some of the capacity problems in Brooklyn Heights and the surrounding areas.
BHB: Would you look to include a school in a new development?
PS: Not a new building. We don’t want to build, build, build. What we want to do is locate in an existing structure.
BHB: What about holding the developers accountable for subsidizing new infrastructure necessary to support the increased population they are bringing to the Heights?
PS: That’s one of the possibilities, whether it’s at the LICH site or if we are forced into housing in Brooklyn Bridge Park [Pier 6] which I oppose. There are opportunities where we can get into a negotiation with a developer over [this]. I don’t take any real estate money for my campaign. I’ve stood up to the real estate industry repeatedly. I will take a hard line on over-development. This district has too many luxury condo developments already… a massive missed opportunity to create mixed-income housing as part of those new developments.
We don’t want to have new condo towers throughout this district that are for luxury residences. That raises the price of housing, [and] puts additional strain on schools, on infrastructure [and on] mass transit.
We need to fund the schools. The way to do that is to ask the very wealthy to pay a little bit more of a fair share and use that funding to invest in public services. Whether it’s schools, mass transit, libraries or hospitals or infrastructure, we need a massive public investment in those kinds of resources so that we can have the society we need.
BHB: What’s your position about all options for public education, including charter schools?
PS: Charter schools come up all the time, and they are an important issue, but there are many other issues that frankly matter more than charter schools.
There are some good charter schools and some not so good charter schools. Overall the research shows that charter schools are no better or worse than traditional public schools. I don’t think that we should govern by anecdote, we should govern by data. So charter schools are not producing better results, according to research, than traditional public schools.
There are individual charter school chains or operators who do a better job than some schools…. Some public schools do much better jobs than the charters, and that’s true in this district. What we need to do overall is think how are we going to get to the services and the quality of education that we need. Class sizes are too big, arts and music education has been cut, there are libraries that don’t have librarians. The schools are not funded at the level that the state courts have ruled [is necessary] under the state constitution’s mandate on basic education.
We need to fund the schools. The way to do that is to ask the very wealthy to pay a little bit more of a fair share and use that funding to invest in public services. Whether it’s schools, mass transit, libraries or hospitals or infrastructure, we need a massive public investment in those kinds of resources so that we can have the society we need.
We also need to make sure that teachers are well prepared and professionally supported. We know what makes great teachers; there’s been a tremendous amount of very good research showing the kinds of teaching techniques that lead to progress. What we should do is create the kind of professional development and training structure—that takes money—to make good teachers into great teachers, great teachers into excellent teachers and make mediocre teachers into better teachers.