Brooklyn Bridge Park Meeting Monday Evening

The Brooklyn Bridge Park Conservancy has announced that:

[t]he … Conservancy, working with Empire State Development Corporation, New York State Parks, and New York City Parks, is holding a public meeting on Monday, November 26 to facilitate public input as part of a year-long effort to develop a strategic plan for programming in Brooklyn Bridge Park.

The meeting will be from 6:30 to 9:00 p.m., at Congregation Mt. Sinai, 250 Cadman Plaza West.

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  • Billy

    I am beginning to suspect that the Brooklyn Bridge Park is an urban myth. I do not think that there is any real will or public money to spend on it and I think the governor is so otherwise preoccupied that the whole project is down the toilet and no one has the balls to admit it.
    Programing for the park? how about getting started on the construction? These hearings are wastes of time. The governor has not yet even appointed a head to the Brooklyn Bridge Park Developmet Corporation. Don’t you think that if they are asking the public to give up their time and go to a meeting that they should at least have the decency to appoint a head to the development subsidiary that is supposed to be in charge? What shenanigans! What a boondoggle! What lies and misrepresentations! A pox on the Empire Development Corporation and all the lying politicians!

  • nicky215

    You are right . Just think about all the patronage jobs our local state elected reps have filled while waiting 20+ years for his thing to happen. The staid and proper Brooklyn Heights Association has also feathered their nest. Association children and friends have gotten jobs and who is to sell the bonds for the housing etc etc. The husbands of the Heights and their wall st. firms. WHERE IS OUR PUBLIC PARK

  • anon

    its not a park its a development for the rich.
    the plot of land that is locted behind 10 jay st was donated by con ed for park use (for the people) now its becoming a luxury private rtesidence.

  • Another anon

    Did anyone attend last night’s pathetic meeting sponsored by the BBP Conservancy? The vast majority of community members in attendance were clear in their desire to see a real park along the shore and not the luxury condo development it has become. It is apparent to all that the recreation and cultural venues originally planned for the park are gone because the people who will live inside the park do not want the intending noise and activity a real park generates. Elected officials who spoke, David Yasky and Bill DeBlasio, were hissed at, as was the evening’s hostess, Marianna Koval. Why? For their support of condos inside this public park. Yasky still believes that the height of the condo buildings (it looks like we are up to 7 new buildings folks) is the problem. Can’t he figure out that it is the mere presence of condos inside of parks is the problem? And this is a guy who wants to be comptroller? Let him ferret out what city deals are legit or not? Yikes. Get rid of the condos, restore the recreation long needed, and get back to seeing this as an asset for all Brooklynites and not just an asset for real estate moguls (and the politicians that do their bidding). Shame on anyone, including this new park president, Regina Myer, who believe that we must sell our public park lands to the highest real estate bidder. The deal was NOT to make BBPark a totally self-sustaining park. That is a fiction made dangerous by the Brooklyn Heights Association that promulgated it. Call Yasky, DeBlasio, Joan Milman and Regina Myer. Tell them you want a real park not landscaping and highrises for the wealthy.

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  • James

    Why does the BBPark have to be self-sustaining? Can you imagine the howls of protest that would be heard if such a thing were planned for a Manhattan Park? While the BBPark languishes on the drawing board, the entire shoreline around Manhattan will be taxpayer-funded revitalized and rebuilt and Brooklyn Bridge Park will still be in the planning stages.

    It does seem WRONG for there to be condos in the park. A park is a public place and the presence of these housing units will give the people who live in them a sense of entitlement that they alone should be allowed to use the park. It is human nature. Look to Battery Park City and its esplanade and you will see that visitors are not really made to feel welcome.

    Although a member of the Brooklyn Heights Association, I am beginning to see that they seem to do things that are not necessarily good for the area (i.e. Years ago, they supported the building of the Barnes and Noble and movie complex on Court Street and opposed the building which houses Garden of Eden on Montague Street – which do you think is more detrimental for the neighborhood?)

    They encourage “clean” tenants on Montague Street and so now we have banks and real estate stores that make the area a dull ghost town in the evenings. Forget the Baby Gap that the BHA wants – where are our bakeries?

    They have some philosophical problem with the new (and very good) restaurants in the North Heights because they have determined that Brooklyn Heights people like to leave the neighborhood to go out to eat – sez who?

    They concentrate all of their cleaning efforts on Montague Street and yet the Clark Street subway Station and the three blocks of Henry Street from Clark to Cranberry are the dirtiest areas in all of the Heights. Can’t they use their efforts to get that area to look a bit better?

    Sorry that this turned into a diatribe against the BHA, but I am beginning to wonder just what good this organization does for the neighborhood and the planning of the Brooklyn Bridge Park!

  • lady montague

    I’m not a BHA defender but I’m not sure why you think the Court Street Barnes & Noble/movie theater is detrimental to the neighborhood. Nor were they opposed to Garden of Eden, just to the height of the apartment building immediately adjacent to the low-rise historic district.

  • ABC

    I like and use the Barnes and Noble and the movie theater. I hate the building that has Garden of Eden as a tenant. But I think what you’re trying to get at James, is that black people patronize the bookstore and movie theater and thus, it’s a big problem (for you, I guess).

  • James

    No ABC what you say is not the case. The problem is that B and N is a big box store which is out of place. Also the lines for the movie house are a great problem for the people on the residential side streets. Ever try to sleep with that noise in the Summer? Don’t assume what is not the case ABC because you show your own prejudice.

    Also, the BHA was opposed to the building on Montague because it was too tall (on that block?) and it has a garage with an elevator which they said would cause traffic problems.

  • anon

    The Bha has turned the heights into whhite bread . It is boring . An entry to BBp from Montague St. would liven up the area but they are afraid of people other than themselves.

  • Thomas

    The real issue, like it or not, is that the Brooklyn Bridge Park plan is a disaster. Neither the conservancy people or the board members who appointed Myer – people like Joanne Whitty, Peter Ashkenasy, or Hank Guttman who were in attendance last night – actually sat down and participated in the community break out sessions. They just patted each other on the back and coffee-clatched in the back of the room during these important conversations. They know they can win with the condo-park because the fix is in with the likes of Yassky and DeBlasio. Shame on them all.

  • ABC

    sorry, I don’t buy it james. if you can’t deal with people, time to move out of NYC. barnes and noble and the movie theater are perfectly placed on Court St. and heavily used, by your admission.

  • James

    That’s the point ABC. Too many people and overdevelopment. You don’t sound like you have lived in the Heights very long. Perhaps Manhattan is more your speed.

  • lady montague

    Oh come on, the movie theater is NOT overdevelopment. It’s located on Court Street and in downtown, which historically contained many theaters. If anything, the 180 Montague Street highrise is overdevelopment, adding hundreds of extra residents (and their cars, via the garage) into our neighborhood, and adding to a ring of out-of-character highrises that started with Cadman Plaze in the 60s. Nor is Barnes & Noble a “big box” store. Sure, it’s a national chain, and wouldn’t it be nice if local booksellers were thriving, but they aren’t, and that’s a national problem, not something to lay at the feet of the BHA.

    Anyway, back to the topic of this thread. Again I’m neutral as to BHA, but IIRC they are doing more to get the park going than the dogmatic opponents who seem like they’d rather have no park than one with surrounding condos. As for access, I don’t recall if they have taken a stance on a Montague Street connection, but I do think there is a legitimate concern about having Joralemon be the (a) main entry point, given that it’s a cobblestone street.

  • Claude Scales

    I’m in general agreement with Lady Montague’s comments above, but am glad to point out that there is a local bookseller, Bookcourt, which is thriving despite being just a couple of blocks from B&N.

    Someone earlier wrote that they felt unwelcome in the park areas abutting Battery Park City. My daughter goes to school in BPC, and I have often walked or run along the esplanade there after dropping her off, sometimes taking long breaks to sit on benches and enjoy the harbor view. I’ve never felt the slightest bit unwelcome.

  • MadeInBrooklyn

    Do you all forget that years back there was a movie theatre on that same block, albeit it was a porno theatre. Would you prefer that back? Doubtful … Regardless, as far as I can recall the developers of that movie house agreed that one screen was to be dedicated to foreign films and \”art\” films. What happened to that?!?

  • lady montague

    What, “Saw III” isn’t arty enough for you? Jeesh.

  • Claude Scales

    I remember the porno theater. It had plastic letters on the marquee that were supposed to read “TWO FIRST RUN BKLYN”, but whoever put them up was either high or couldn’t spell, so it said “TWO FIRTS RUN BKLYN.” I always wanted to meet those two firts.

    Then one day a “T” fell off, making it “TWO FIR S RUN BKLYN.” It used to be a big deal that a tree even grew here.