Comments on: Open Thread Wednesday

By: Diesel

Diesel — Tue, 17 May 2016 11:03:00 +0000

Yup, they pulled the ole “bait and switch” routine, You “humans” fall for it every time.

By: Mary

Mary — Mon, 16 May 2016 14:52:00 +0000

And don’t forget the choppers! Argh..

By: Mary

Mary — Mon, 16 May 2016 14:45:00 +0000

We’ve had this problem for the last few years in Cadman park. Groups set up incredibly loud speaker systems and start ‘checking’ sometimes hours before the event. Some relief lately (thanks to Robert, et.al.).

But neither the park system nor police enforce noise limits as outlined by DEP and NYC Parks (see their sites). DEP caps decibels to 42d as measured from inside residences for “bars and restaurants” (I haven’t found park limits but this seems increasingly analogous), and Parks to “No person shall make…unreasonable noise.. so as to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or harm..” The codes need to be updated tp address the universal increase in permit event noise.

By: StoptheChop

StoptheChop — Sun, 15 May 2016 19:54:00 +0000

The original design, iirc, had terraces that were supposed to be like a vertical extension of the park. The actual result couldn’t be more in-your-face…..

By: StudioBrooklyn

StudioBrooklyn — Sun, 15 May 2016 01:30:00 +0000

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/814d63eb1162c9e6f2681acdc83c0cd1945deab56670c1eaf1e7de29909b8cba.jpg Columbia Heights closed off after scaffolding collapse from today’s winds. Was anybody hurt? Saw lots of fire trucks responding.

By: StudioBrooklyn

StudioBrooklyn — Sat, 14 May 2016 20:44:00 +0000

…which is good because it’s NOT a f€cking natural evolution.

By: Concerned

Concerned — Sat, 14 May 2016 12:58:00 +0000

Yeah, I did better in latin than shop class…

By: Concerned

Concerned — Sat, 14 May 2016 12:07:00 +0000

1) the issue is with large crowds, NOT court availability, and 2) if you all have that little faith that these basketball players won’t be able to control themselves for even more reasons, then I agree with you in that we should get rid of ALL the courts. Thanks for supporting my argument.

By: Arch Stanton

Arch Stanton — Sat, 14 May 2016 11:33:00 +0000

What’s even funnier is your lacking knowledge of tools and paint, LOL.

By: Arch Stanton

Arch Stanton — Sat, 14 May 2016 11:24:00 +0000

If as you say, availability isn’t the issue, than reducing the number of courts would likely make it an issue.

By: Arch Stanton

Arch Stanton — Sat, 14 May 2016 11:24:00 +0000

Exactly.

By: Concerned

Concerned — Fri, 13 May 2016 20:12:00 +0000

If you think “Concerned” is the same person as “Heretostay” or a banned user who shall not be named, you’re absolutely wrong. Read my posts and point out one bigoted thing I say. I’m curious as to how you interpret what I’m saying as bigotry. Moreover, I’d really like to know how you suggest I can bring up community safety without sounding “bigoted” to you.

By: neighboronhicks

neighboronhicks — Fri, 13 May 2016 18:34:00 +0000

so many handles, such the same voice! the words on the page belie the bigotry.

By: HereToStay

HereToStay — Fri, 13 May 2016 18:00:00 +0000

There is nothing bigoted about this. You have to react to the facts — and just pretending everything will be fine does not suffice. And LOL! You are bringing Trump into this? Well, since you did, I’ll say that I have worked for Trump in the past and although not the most articulate, he is a stand-up guy. Almost everything he has said has been twisted by the press and is not true. He is NOT a racist and only wants to stop ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, which we all should. We should welcome others here that have gone through the system!

By: Concerned

Concerned — Fri, 13 May 2016 17:41:00 +0000

I never have been and I never will be a supporter of Trump or his policies. But what I do truly believe is that people like you push some moderates to consider supporting Trump. Your reading of bigotry into all these posts is one of the biggest problems with the important civil discourse in this country and people are sick of it. There are people pulling guns, there are nasty bloody brawls all around a park that people are bringing their children to. And all you want to do is talk about race. It’s so sad because people are scared to talk about these real issues because people like you might try to ruin them by calling them a racist. It’s even worse because there are so many real issues of racism going on.

By: neighboronhicks

neighboronhicks — Fri, 13 May 2016 17:16:00 +0000

This whole string of posts is a shameful representation of a bigoted view that belies the general hospitable nature of our neighborhood. Equating teens playing basketball with violence is exactly why Donald Trump is a danger to this country and our way of life. Move to Texas, if you’re so “concerned.” The bocce courts are fun.

By: StudioBrooklyn

StudioBrooklyn — Fri, 13 May 2016 16:55:00 +0000

Not sure about corporate but the signage on the Pierhouse construction perimeter fence no longer bears the tag line “A Natural Evolution”.

By: Concerned

Concerned — Fri, 13 May 2016 13:11:00 +0000

The typo was funny. As far as expense, give me a contractor with a chainsaw and some spray paint and I could take care of the courts and the new space it creates. The chainsaw could cut down the hoops, the spray paint for new games on the concrete to play. It’s that easy.

By: Concerned

Concerned — Fri, 13 May 2016 13:08:00 +0000

Thanks Greg. This blog is a great place for the neighborhood and civil discourse is SO important. My personal opinion is that passionate but civil discourse is the best way for issues to get solved. Sometimes that puts me at odds with many on this blog, but I try to stay respectful. Most of the time, I feel the respect is mutual. SB is always respectful and thoughtful, despite out different views. What I do know is that everyone on this blog cares about the neighborhood.

By: Concerned

Concerned — Fri, 13 May 2016 12:51:00 +0000

Respectfully, I disagree. The issue doesn’t seem to be with availability of courts. Conversely, do you think that the problem we’re having with the violence at the courts would lessen if we ADDED courts? I don’t think so.
The issue is with large groups of teenagers, many disenfranchised, having a gathering spot where they are unchecked. Malls across America have dealt with this situation and have implemented measures to deter large groups gathering that trouble is attracted to. Which goes to my point that this is NOT a black and white thing. It is a dumb teenager thing. But some of these teenagers are very hardened and have access to guns, which is a big problem for anyone who wants to enjoy the park.

By: StudioBrooklyn

StudioBrooklyn — Fri, 13 May 2016 11:35:00 +0000

Oh yeah!! Totally forgot…haven’t seen her in a long time. But, you know, haven’t been paying very careful attention either.

By: Roberto

Roberto — Fri, 13 May 2016 11:35:00 +0000

The CEO receives about $50,000/day and the chumps get their change. Verizon workers offers a take-it-or-leave-it schedule that mandates assignment to Massachusetts or another state even if the employee lives in NYC.

By: Concerned

Concerned — Fri, 13 May 2016 11:26:00 +0000

LOL. You named her by initials so as not to “out” her. She is a TV star that you have spoken with at the Pierrepont park. She’s very “patriotic”…

By: StudioBrooklyn

StudioBrooklyn — Fri, 13 May 2016 11:14:00 +0000

Concerned and I have a rapport despite our disagreements, which I hope other commenters do too. I try to keep in mind that on here I’m usually addressing my neighbors and not just some anonymous person in another part of the world.

By: Arch Stanton

Arch Stanton — Fri, 13 May 2016 10:05:00 +0000

LOL that was a funny typo but grasping at spelling errors does not make your argument any stronger. Oh and by the way, my autocorrect is turned off.
I didn’t call you a weak minded person. I said the solution of lessening the courts sounded like a weak-minded idea, which it is, as are most rush to ban or limit something schemes.
And talk about Irony, you say my solution sounds expensive yet you want to convert the BB courts to something else and demand more police presence. You know all that ain’t cheap either.

By: Teresa

Teresa — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:12:00 +0000

Arguably, reducing the number of courts would increase the amount of tension because of reduced availability. Often the case with resources of any kind.

By: Teresa

Teresa — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:09:00 +0000

I was walking through the park at 7 am when the music was blasting and the security for the event said that the police had been there and that the event had a permit to make that amount of noise at that hour, and that it was necessary as a sound-check. The latter claim seemed dubious, given the length, volume, and frequency of the music.

By: Greg

Greg — Fri, 13 May 2016 04:30:00 +0000

I’m not sure what I personally think of the whole situation, or what the best options ultimately are.

But I want to share that I read your and StudioBrooklyn’s back-and-forth carefully and with an open mind.

I was starting to get turned off by the increasingly mudslinging tone and the obvious sensitivity I saw seeping in that wasn’t, in my view, contributing well to the basic arguments.

I was then pleasantly surprised to watch the debate pick up in civility and respect, and especially watch it acknowledge the well-meaning sincerity of all sides, even if opinions differ.

That made me far more open to both viewpoints while independently solidifying my own feelings.

Thank you for taking it there, and helping realize the community value this blog is capable of at best.

By: StudioBrooklyn

StudioBrooklyn — Fri, 13 May 2016 02:39:00 +0000

Ok I’m not gonna go in-depth with this stuff, as I said, agree to disagree, and I think we’re on the same page, big picture.

But I’m racking my brain: who is KR?!

By: StudioBrooklyn

StudioBrooklyn — Fri, 13 May 2016 02:37:00 +0000

“Basketball courts = criminals” is an example of stereotyping. I’m not sure what media you think I’m consuming but you should know my conclusions are drawn from direct observation and the comments on this blog.