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  • Willow Street Watch

    Well, the borough President Eric Adams public hearing on the BPL plans for the new library occurred last night. It was mobbed by area residents.
    Well over 70 people signed up to speak!

    Outside of people with a financial interest somehow in the development very few speakers advocated the new cadman library plan. Speaker after speaker from the financially disinterested faction however, strongly dinounced the plan and began recounting a series of serious very damaging disclosures about the project so far and the BPL/Hudson/Mar- vel’s future plans. Many of the disclosures were eye popping like the BPl had a secret “real estate plan” which they made the centerpiece for their actions on building upkeep and funds sourcing.

    At base, many charged, the BPL’s plan was a version of the classic slumlord practice of first letting/causing a building’s ondition to decline with poor/no maintence, then call for a LOT of financing ( the larger the note, the larger the rake) or drive the old controlled Tennant’s out then sell/develop the now vacant/damaged building……

    Much testimony was very highly refined with very good insight. Others was valid and honest some was markable for clearly/loudly point in out how bad what is occurring here really is. (more)

  • Willow Street Watch

    Several who provided testimony pointed to the fact that the BPL had ceased or greatly reduced their persuit of philanthropy at least as far as the Carman brands turning to sale/development as the basic or primary cash to operate source. And the long air conditioning/building condition “woes” were carefully contrived to suit their hidden real estate agenda…

    A parade of the financially self interested appeared in favor of the plan. This ranger from mid to high level attorneys and NGO’s types to BPL employees some of which stayed till the very end of all proceedings as a apparent organized group. The Brooklyn Chamber sent an employee to present their predictable support. The I-want-a-job-and-I-could-care-less-whose-neighborhood-it-disrupts types were there to provide a opposite end of the yuppie self absorbed bookends.

    Three testifiers brought a moment of great clarity/sanity when they made the basic observation that resources to provide public safety and services to an increased population should ALWAYS be put in place FIRST, BEFORE allowing an influx of population from development.

  • Willow Street Watch

    The night’s proceedings, at base, concluded with testimony from a well known Heights advocate who departing from other presentations did not limit his testimony to the question of the plan but used the majority of his remarks to the plan opponents as to what was wrong with their tactics and basic approach. In some of the strongest terms of the session he advised that directing efforts at elected/appointed officials would never work and they needed to bring the elected sector under FEDERAL judicial pressure and install significant “penalties” for the real estate community in response to the “assault” the plan represents perhaps by offering incentives to uncover corruption/illegal behavior in the general real estate business community. Much of the remarks appeared directed to the leaders present of opposition groups. Not all leaders were seen taking the criticism in good humor.The testimony’s tone itself amused many but was controversial one wag calling it a rockabilly record in the middle of a mostly classical concert.

  • MaryT

    @WSW is correct that the BLP plot against our little branch was of long standing, and a self-fulfilling, hypocritical one at that. If you neglect it, they will come, and scrape, and build, and make lots of money. It was a real jewel and the size was just right. Their PC excuse seems to be, let’s destroy one or more integrated neighborhood libraries in order to fund the rest of the BPL system. We wuz robbed. Again.

  • Resident

    So tired of these posts. I know this is pointless on this blog because the majority of the small number of commentators are from anti development groups, but your efforts here are misplaced and wildly out of wacky with reality. Like others have said before, this community is – basically as a whole – all for a new library AND the new condo, which will bring some life to a sad stretch of Cadman Plaza West. We don’t care if some developers make a bundle. Such is life…

  • GHB

    I hear that another berm is going up in BBP where that low building was just razed? I can’t help but think of what a lost opportunity this is. The berms may cut the noise inside the park, but the space they take up could have become useful park land. Quiet is nice, but this is New York City! I’d much rather have the space. And the berm is ugly as hell once it’s weeded or when the cold weather settles in. Oh well…

  • William Gilbert

    Not so sure we agree with real estate shills like you who call themselves “resident” as spearheading some sort of neighborhood groundswell of support for yet more development. And yes, we do care that billionaires can profit so much from public land, our land. They are willing to pave over our area with at least 6 skyscraper buildings ALL being built on what was once public land – BBP, LICH and the library. How much did they have to pay the politicians for this?

  • Resident

    Lol see comment above.

  • StoptheChop

    yes– but don’t fret! there’s still plenty of room for tour buses to pull up on Furman St so tourists can take “the shot” anytime day or night! and if they’re blocking southbound traffic, so it has to swerve around and almost collide with northbound traffic, who cares? (or, they’ll just move to other spots clearly marked “NO parking/standing”…. I wonder who’s instructed the NYPD to leave them alone, given how blatant they are).

  • DIBS

    LOL, god forbid the area ias actually improved!!!!! The “billionaires’ rhetoric is straight out of Obama’s playbook.

  • Danny K

    I hope this condo comes with its own school because it is going to crush PS 8.

  • C.

    I’ve been saying the same thing ever since the first berm was announced. Such a colossal waste of park space. So many acres devoted to an ugly, unnatural looking hill that no one can go on. They could have easily encased that stretch of the BQE with something to keep the sound in and saved us acres of park space. When I was in the park the other day I saw some renderings of the area that was just razed and it seems like there were trails and paths planned so I’m not positive that they will be building another berm. Holding out hope anyway. Plus, it seems they are removing all the rubble of the recently razed building. If you were making a berm, wouldn’t you just pile the rubble into a pile and cover it with dirt if your were making another berm?

  • GHB

    If I was a berm-maker, I suppose I would! Fingers crossed that they use the area for actual park stuff!

  • Willow Street Watch

    The berm is only a symptom of the increasing age of ugliness and binality we find ourselves in. This is a product of the darlings running large parts of academia especially the schools who produce the designers, architects and urban planners. The sectors producing governmental administration types are beyond belief. The results are here for everyone to see.

  • Jorale-man

    Exactly. “Resident” is obviously entitled to his opinion, whether or not it’s paid for by the real estate business. But to defend the condos as something the neighborhood is eager to embrace is a bit of a stretch. Perhaps some people find them a necessary evil but I doubt too many neighbors relish the shadows the skyscraper will cast over the Heights, the increased crowding in the subway, or the other strains on infrastructure. We shall see.

  • Jorale-man

    I agree. Why didn’t they encase the BQE with sound barriers like they have along other highways? They could have designed something that would have minimized the sound and thus allowed for more natural-looking park space. Will be interesting to see if they can grow anything on the next installment.

  • Willow Street Watch

    I forgot to mention one of the most of important aspects of last night’s rumble at Borough Hall…Eric Adams, to the frustration/anger of many Left the meeting at 7:30PM (!!!!) and of course, shortly after did most of the pestt (!!!) So the majority of people testifying were left largely talking to themselves. There were a sort of second line/administrative support staff who were left to run the meeting. Who were a LOT less friendly that Mr Adams.

    But the point of several speakers, especially the near to last testimony that the forces opposing the plan, though sincere are failing because they insist on following the wrong tactical path was a telling point.
    Why are the leaders of the protest limiting themselves to appealing to (well entrenched) government and not at least filing a RJI/car in Federal Court and if necessary using well existng boilerplate forms to proceed pro we just to send some kind of a shock wave though a worsening situation? Also, why aren’t the Height “leaders” taking actions which will on some way penalize the sector which is now trying to bring down the real Heights.

    Aren’t there picket lines in front of the banks who are financing this?
    Why aren’t there regularized public distribution of literature? The anti plan people have now become a static group not expanding. That really, really BAD news for any protest movement….So why aren’t any more effective tectice/resources being used???

  • William Gilbert

    How much are you paid per word?

  • William Gilbert

    Stick to rants about Bucks County.

  • MonroeOrange

    improved?…tell that to the residents of clinton and parts of monroe place that won’t have sun light once the new building is up.

  • Henry VonCadman

    hat’s up with the brooklyn bridge exit? I thought the point was to expand it but it looks like they are keeping it the same amount of lanes at the same width? The only change is that a nice wall has been replaced with an ugly one. Anyone know more?

  • Bongo

    Anyone know what’s going on on Clark Street this weekend, that’s brought out the no parking signs for Saturday, and Sunday?

  • Bongo

    Why are the sprouts at Key Food so expensive?

  • Eddyde

    The berm is a relatively cheap and low maintenance. The park is only an excuse to build condos on land that would otherwise be off limits to developers, Now do you get it?

  • Eddyde

    “This community is, basically as a whole, all for a new library AND the new condo” Really, where are you getting your information from? Care to post some links to credible stats.

    I’ve lived here my entire live and have many friends and know many people here, I don’t know anyone who supports any of theres “developments”.

  • Eddyde

    Said the guy who no longer lives here…

  • StudioBrooklyn

    Is it terrible that there’s a part of me which cringes at the missing “s” from Brussels? Brussels Sprouts. They’re named after the Belgian city of Brussels. I’m Googling “why” right now.

  • Love Laner

    Development doesn’t have to mean out of character building height in a generally low rise neighborhood though….

  • DIBS

    I can also rant about Philadelphia and Provincetown, MA. I will be back in BH mid-September. I just want to makw sure the place hasn’t gone to hell or the patients have taken over the asylum.

  • DIBS

    I assume you are a Democrat, the type that isn’t open to any sort of outside criticism. Does it offend you like so many other things these days? BTW, I still visit a lot.