Comments on: Tourist Chopper Crashes in East River – 1 Dead, 4 Injured http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289 Dispatches from America's first suburb Sun, 10 Nov 2024 01:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.2 By: David on Middaghhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-386365 Sat, 08 Oct 2011 22:51:17 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-386365 The lead-off comment certainly wasn’t polite, but it was honest, and the schadenfreude is understandable.

Didn’t we try to break the spirit of a holed-up enemy by blasting raucous music in his general direction? Noise is a torture technique. I don’t think anyone who has fantasized about aiming a shoulder-mounted rocket launcher at a low-hovering chopper could empathize much in this situation. I know I can’t.

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By: philicahttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-386204 Sat, 08 Oct 2011 10:09:22 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-386204 I too was appalled by the comment by ms. elmers, but looks like everyone covered my thoughts about it. Shameful.

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By: Gerryhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384963 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 16:43:20 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384963 I bought my father in law a costly $$$ 1 hour ride on a helecopter and he had a great time he flew directly over our building on Montague Terrace and we all were up on the roof to wave hello – and then he proceeded to enjoy a nice ride over Brooklyn.

The costly ride was a birthday present to him he is one of those guys who has everything and needs nor wants nothing and so I came up with the idea for the helecopter ride.

I agree that there are too many helecopters in the air but to abolish all of the tourist helecopters would be a loss.

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By: weegeehttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384940 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:51:35 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384940 It’s trite, I know, but I can rattle off a list of accidents, fatal or otherwise, that I’ve covered within a half-mile radius of Montague and Clinton that involved cars, tractor-trailers, motorcycles, garbage trucks, bicycles, postal trucks, subways, tour buses, and city buses. Nothing involving aircraft.

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By: Master Of Middaghhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384931 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:34:06 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384931 You’re a bad human, Ms. Elmers! Bad! Bad! Bad!

Helicopter rides are perfectly safe for the most part. Clearly, the vast majority of them do not crash, (and there are a lot of them) so they aren’t unreasonably unsafe. Not to mention all the copters used be emergency personal and the media.

And then you come on here and say this 20-year-old girl deserved to die on her birthday because her being in a helicopter annoyed you… What if it had been a hot air balloon instead? Would you still call her a victim of vanity?

Honestly, if I could alter reality to change places between you and the poor young girl, I would do it; because you are the only person around deserving of such a fate for wishing it on another.

You’ve just raised the ire of half your neighborhood against anyone they encounter named Ms. Elmers, so you better hope that isn’t your real name. Or, better yet, you might consider leaving this neighborhood that you have so little respect for- before you get run out on a rail (whatever that means)…

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By: Western Brooklynhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384930 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:33:53 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384930 What a nightmare!

Joyriding helicopters do not belong over densely-populated urban areas!

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By: Willow St. Neighborhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384924 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:17:01 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384924 JaneonOrange,
You took the words right out of my mouth but I think the definition of “narcissist” works as well.

Narcissist:
A person who is overly self-involved, and often vain and selfish.

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By: residenthttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384922 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:13:26 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384922 Does anyone have actual statistics on helicopter fatalities? How does it compare to fixed-wing aircraft, automobiles, motorcycles, bicycles, etc.? I mean, with the amount of complaints on here, helicopters are flying all the time, but this is only the second fatal accident that I can remember in the last 5-10 years (I also remember a crash into the river with a bunch of bankers on board, but everyone survived). In the same time period, I can think of at least two small plane crashes on NYC rivers with fatalities (the helicopter-plane collision and the Cory Lidle crash). I guess we should ban all small plane flights as well, after all private jets are a “vanity” that are “unsafe, intrusive and noisy.” Hell, you could say the same thing about sportscars and motorcycles. Ban them all!

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By: Wrenniehttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384921 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:07:10 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384921 ms elmers, I find it highly amusing that the way you criticize someone else’s maturity level is by sounding like a child yourself: “deal with adults much?” I’m also blown away by how unaware you are that your original comment is entirely offensive and gauche–it’s one thing to think it to yourself; an entirely different thing to broadcast it on a well-trafficked blog.

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By: Janeonorangehttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384917 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:05:09 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384917 self·ish
   adjective
1. devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one’s own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.

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By: carolhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384897 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:19:27 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384897 It’s time for the city to acknowledge that the tourist helicopter business is dangerous for the passengers and disruptive to the communities nearby. This unfortunate accident proves the point all the more since it was not technically a tourist ride – it was an experienced pilot giving friends a special treat to celebrate a birthday.
Why is the mayor who banned smoking in public places so unwilling to admit that helicopters are dangerous. There are lots of other ways to see and enjoy NYC for tourists.

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By: Eddyenergizerhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384893 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:03:46 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384893 @ Ms Elmers, First you say “the only thing that i know for sure is that they were not hunting osama bin laden? anything else does not work for me”, and then you accuse Willowtown’s comments as being “too simplistic”. I take it introspection is not something you practice, if you did you’d realize you are an imbecile.

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By: WillowtownCophttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384835 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 04:06:37 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384835 “OMG i can’t believe that i am not sorry. i can’t bear this idiotic activity another minute and now this–a gift to brooklyn heights residents.” – ms elmers

I’m sorry MY comments are not mature enough for you. I met my fair share of self absorbed snobs in law school – I guess I just prefer the company of the slack-jawed working class rubes of the NYPD.

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By: ms elmershttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384829 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 03:46:31 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384829 WillowtownCop–your comments are too simplistic–deal with adults much?

This article started off by saying that the inevitable happened and that a tourist helicopter crashed.
But more importantly this is exactly the problem with using helicopters for vanity. They should be used for essential activities like medical emergencies or wars as they are unsafe, intrusive and noisy so let’s not waste people’s patience with shuttling silly and unsuspecting tourists around our city.

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By: WillowtownCophttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384827 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 03:10:49 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384827 I hate to argue on the internet but … what if it were a medical helicopter? Or FDNY? Army? NYPD?

Those make just as much noise. You might need one someday.

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By: ms elmershttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384826 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 03:05:56 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384826 willowtownCop–the only thing that i know for sure is that they were not hunting osama bin laden? anything else does not work for me.

p.s. and yes it’s a sad day when a tragedy brings welcome relief to someone else.

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By: moveawayhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384824 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 03:00:13 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384824 they should turn the comments off on this blog.

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By: WillowtownCophttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384823 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 02:55:54 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384823 @ Elmers – how exactly do you know what they were using the helicopter for?

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By: T.K. Smallhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384818 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 02:32:34 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384818 I agree with Livingston. Expressing happiness or delight at the death of someone is inappropriate.

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By: ms elmershttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384811 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 02:00:48 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384811 Livingston why don’t you comment on the story– why are you concerned with my feelings and my comments?

Let me explain it to you since you are not getting it:

Use of helicopters for vanity is not a smart way to live life so why should i feel sorry for someone who not only choose to endanger their own life but greatly disturbed mine in the process??
This quiet neighborhood has turned into a sh*t show in the last couple of years because of the non-stop helicopter traffic and the noise that they make.
No one likes them and the Mayor has been notified numerous times of how dangerous they are for wide public use as well as the potential to diminish quality of life for residents in the city. Manhattan had to sue to get rid of them, that’s how much they liked having them there. So here is an accident that has been talked about and anticipated and yes I told them so too. A few more and maybe this nonsense will stop.

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By: Eddyenergizerhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384809 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 01:52:05 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384809 All the reports I’ve seen say it was a “private helicopter” and while the passengers are from out of town they know the pilot.

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By: Clairehttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384806 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 01:26:21 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384806 Was this a tourist or commuter helicopter? Tourist choppers all leave from the DMH, and they don’t fly down the East River. And I suspect this accident won’t have any impact on DMH traffic at all. I hate the tourist choppers with a passion, but I’d rather that NYC officials regulate or ban them on the merits (finally doing something about the incessant noise and air pollution) — I don’t wish any ill on the folks who use them.

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By: The Huh?http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384799 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 00:24:47 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384799 @Livingston

Surely you’re no longer surprised by comments like ms elmers’. There’s always someone who views a tragedy as some kind of retribution/comeuppance so they can say “I told you so.” It’s an unfortunate part of human nature.

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By: GHBhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384795 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 23:59:22 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384795 How many people have to die before they ban these goddamn tourist helicopters?

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By: Livingstonhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384785 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 23:18:31 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384785 @ ms. elmers:

I cannot believe you consider a truly unfortunate event that resulted in a death as “gift to Brooklyn Heights” and your own relief from a minor annoyance. Raises self-absorbed to a whole new level, and it’s not pretty.

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By: WillowtownCophttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384776 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:41:21 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384776 The two men clinging to the wreckage in the Post pic do not look like tourists – they look like they have suits on.

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By: David on Middaghhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384775 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:29:22 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384775 It’s not as if helicopter parts are falling out of the sky on a weekly schedule to put holes in our roofs and conk us on the heads. The danger (what little there is, given the infrequency of deathly crashes) falls upon the willing pilots and riders.

What is not a red herring is the insane-making noise…

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By: ....http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384770 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:04:00 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384770 ^

What this tragedy really means is that all chopper flights will now only be allowed to depart and land at the Wall Street heliport. What a gift for BKH residents…..

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By: ms elmershttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/32289/comment-page-1#comment-384766 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:34:53 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=32289#comment-384766 OMG i can’t believe that i am not sorry. i can’t bear this idiotic activity another minute and now this–a gift to brooklyn heights residents.
these deaths are on this mayor’s head and his corrupt administration.

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