Comments on: Mr. Junkersfeld Talks Brooklyn Bridge Park Finance http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/13803 Dispatches from America's first suburb Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:37:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.2 By: bklyn20http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/13803/comment-page-1#comment-211380 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:20:53 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=13803#comment-211380 Mr. J, there IS another funding mechanism — pls see my post above. This PIRC plan was proposed and is being pursued by Daniel Squadron, our new State Senator. A funding mechanism of this type was also proposed by 33rd District City Council candidate — he came in third in the end — Evan Thies. Thies’ proposal was published as a NY Daily News OpEd. Steve Levin, the winner in the council race, supports the PIRC plan as well (see his web site.)

In addition, the BBPark budget is bloated – the cost per acre is WAY higher than it should be. Please note that the Brooklyn Bridge Park Development Corporation counts the water acres in their figures. The park is cited as c. 85 acres, when the actual land mass is c. 65 acres — if you take out the water between the piers! Their tactic is that total cost divided by more acres = lower cost per acre. Do water acres have to be landscaped, fertilized, watered…? I hope you get my point.

I want very much to see this park built AS A PARK. I wish the plan was scaled down, so the central piers could get developed sooner. Can’t we claw back the design budget for a less over-the-top plan? Andrew Cuomo, are you available for audit duty?

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By: nickyhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/13803/comment-page-1#comment-211355 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:58:22 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=13803#comment-211355 this blog continues to be edited and controlled to death

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By: nickyhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/13803/comment-page-1#comment-211350 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:27:26 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=13803#comment-211350 Daniel’s plan needs to be considered…so do others Evan Thies’ plan as well as floating bonds.. etc etc. The plan to depend on real estate either in or near the park(via rezoning)is very questionable..Despite our wishes the financial sector has shrunk… note the fewer investment banks etc… We need to think this throught again.. Fewer folks will be buying aapartments for 1 M or more ….and more will need the public recreation parks have provided to citizens of this city as part of the contract between citizens and government

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By: Karl Junkersfeldhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/13803/comment-page-1#comment-211346 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:35:51 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=13803#comment-211346 Park Advocate, you are missing the entire point. I am a tremendous advocate of the park. As the opening title suggest, it will be transformative for the Brooklyn Heights area. Next to the impact that Robert Moses had on western Brooklyn Heights this is the next largest developmental impact this neighborhood has ever experienced. I am shocked by the tremendous apathy I see in the neighborhood about this development. Next to personal relations, changing of the physical structure of your immediate surroundings has got to be on the top of the list of things that make life worth living. This is an extraordinary time to be living in the Heights. I relish it. its impact on the community both socially and economically will be monumental. The Wine Bar on Henry will be a gold mine.

The point of the film was to enlighten those in the area of what development will be taking place in your immediate area and where it will be. Secondarily, my commentary was a concern that the Park’s major dependence on financing on Real Estate revenues in problematic and I proceeded to give examples of declining real estate values in the immediate neighborhood. This isn’t a revelation to anyone who reads the paper.

I wasn’t being negative as much as just being realistic. The park will be beautiful and because I am such an advocate, I want it to succeed.

This is a very expensive project that has got to be self sustaining on an ongoing basis. After all, 15.2mm is not a low annual figure. We all have read about the controversy regarding annual costs problems with respect to HighLine in Lower Manhattan. That was another point in the film, City and State government, because of the projects proximity to the waterfront will not contribute to the annual operation and maintenance of the park. That was mentioned in the film.

There was good news coming from 1BBP condo a couple of days ago when they announced the following results due to price reductions:

“In less than one month, the building has signed 12 new contracts and eight contracts out.”

If you are truly an advocate of the park, aren’t you concerned about the dependence of 3 condominiums that are at relatively undesirable locations for financing in an already glutted luxury condo/rental market?

Personally, I am fine with condominium development in the park, my question is if there is demand for that product and if not are their alternative proposals to fund the park? I’m aware of the new economic realities that confront NYC public development and I accept that the city needs to develop private partnerships for revenue.

In summation, I am a tremendous advocate of the park and because of that I have tremendous concern about its financial underpinnings. Don’t you?

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By: nabeguyhttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/13803/comment-page-1#comment-211327 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:19:39 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=13803#comment-211327 “Hopefully” Gee, that puts my mind to rest. And if it’s not self-sustaining? Fill in the blanks…..

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By: bklyn20http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/13803/comment-page-1#comment-211324 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:15:09 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=13803#comment-211324 There IS a way to fund the park without additional housing — Daniel Squadron’s PIRC plan. If I have it correctly, PIRC stands for Park Incremental Revenue Capture. PLease see the following quote from a letter the Cobble HIll Association sent to Mayor Bloomberg:

“We are especially excited by Senator Squadron’s proposal for a new revenue model, the Park Increment Recapture (PIRC). The PIRC will not raise anyone’s property taxes, nor will it take any revenue from the City’s financial plan since it is based only on future rezonings. It is a simple and elegant solution to a problem that has vexed Park supporters for half a decade: how to maintain the Park without the proposed new housing. The argument all along has been that housing is necessary to pay for the park’s operations budget. No one wants the housing per se. The housing plan has only sown division and distrust since it was first foisted on the neighborhood. Nor does housing belong in a park as a matter of principle. What an awful precedent the City would be setting by building apartments inside a park. Senator Squadron’s PIRC proposal may be the way to prevent that dreadful precedent from ever happening. It deserves your support.”

The idea is to capture some of the increase in the property values of real estate generated by proximity to a “world class park.” Some PIRC versions target new real estate — I prefer capturing the property increase of all real estate in the general park area.

As I have writtten elsewhere on this and other blogs, I do believe that the park plan being built now is too extravagant for our economic situation . Yes , some pretty fancy stuff is emerging — but the central piers with the much needed- active recreation space are still unfunded.

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By: Park Advocatehttp://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/13803/comment-page-1#comment-211319 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:58:12 +0000 http://brooklynheightsblog.com/?p=13803#comment-211319 What is the point of this video? If you don’t have anything positive to say, suggest something productive rather than just pooh pooh some extraordinary progress on a wonderful thing.

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